The liars who pushed “there isn’t enough for everyone” aren’t pushing it much anymore. They’ve moved on to saying “not everyone deserves basic human needs”—which is what they really thought all along.
If you cannot pay for it, you don’t deserve it. The basic tenet of capitalism.
are you posting that though in a quote fashion or somewhat sarcastic or do you actually believe it?
It’s sarcasm
Name a place you can exist in the capitalist Dreamland of the USA without paying money to do so?
The Library!
You can’t live there.
Brought to you by evil socialist policies, why should I have to pay my taxes for your kids to read books. /S
Name a place anywhere you can live without paying money to do so?
Legally? What’s your level of civilization requirements?
Yes, obviously, legally.
i dont think i can. whats your point?
In your eyes, is the USA the only capitalist country in the world, or just the only one you hate?
Because ……
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/capitalist-countries
There is room in my heart for lots of hate my friend.
Only room enough in your mouth for the US though, I’ll bet.
Yeah your mom’s genitals were bigger than I expected.
Yes.
Ecofascism is really about the fascism part at the end of the day.
What? I haven’t seen any ecofascists. The fascists are yet to give a fuck about ecology and climate. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofascism
Eco-fascists have been around for yonks. 90% of the time you hear people utter shit like ‘there’s too many people, we need a plague to cure the planet’ that’s an ecofash.
Funny how they’re never willing to sacrifice themselves/their family/friends/community though. It’s always others who must die in order to
make lebensraumsave the planet.More like: There’s too many brown people, we need a plague to cure the planet.
The storage unit business is still booming, growing at over 7% annually in NA.
We have so much shit we have to rent units offsite to store our shit.And that’s happening at the same time that the square footage per capita has increased dramatically. Not only are houses bigger now, but household size (number of people living in each house) has shrunk too. That’s how much shit we got.
Is this happening in rural areas? I feel like in cities and suburbs there are more people living in a household. Like roommates or multiple families, because of how expensive housing is.
and there are legit hoarders, i know someone that is.
https://www.misfitsmarket.com/
Buy food that was rejected because of its appearance. It’s super cheap, it slows food waste, and it helps out a small company.
What’s also weird is that if you want to get rid of perfectly good things nobody wants it or anyplace that might be able to use it makes it prohibitively difficult to get it to them. Got a functional fridge? Sure, you haul it out of your house, rent a truck, take it to the receiver - oh, and it can’t be more than 10 years old.
I find these posts that complain about waste kinda performative. While they’re not wrong, they ignore the logistical issues, both deliberate and indirect, of getting those things to the people that actually need them.
FWIW I’ve found that putting a “curb alert” for free good items with pictures and a location works pretty well. Some industrious person will usually pick something decent up 75% of the time.
Capitalism depends on violence and deprivation to keep labor desperate and exploitable.
Maybe, but violence and deprivation existed long before any systems of logistical distribution or sales. Early capitalism solved some of those issues. But we’re in late stage capitalism now.
Because the two thousand child raping and killing men who rule over us have deemed it so
We produce enough food to feed everyone, it’s just that it’s not profitable to do so because the rich are greedy ghouls.
but where’s the profit in that?! /s
I agree about the furniture, electronics and housing part. But food gets spoiled rather rapidly unfortunately. Any effort to give food away to those in need would have to move the goods quick enough.
Any effort to give food away to those in need would have to move the goods quick enough.
Having volunteered at a local food bank I can confidently say that it is absolutely possible to do. And not even that difficult, assuming there is a genuine will to do it.
Annoyingly, there are still far too many companies in the food supply chain whose mindset is that they would rather trash something than allow it to get into the hands of people who need it without them paying for it.
Stuff was tried and is being tried. For example, in my country, local supermarkets are giving away food that’s close to due date at a discount (mostly it’s 50%). It’s an easy way of buying food for cheap.
Bro trust me we have the means to feed and shelter every human on earth. Now ask yourself why don’t we?
We have long life food, it still goes into the bin at your local supermarket.
Food insecurity is a capitalism problem. We can supply logistics to anywhere in the world if we want. We have more than enough to feed everyone. We don’t because profit is the motivation not humanity.
We don’t because it’s not free to do so. You have to pay people to produce food.
Damn can’t believe humanity starved to death before the invention of currency.
Logistically it’s a nightmare, but local food offerings in supermarkets and farmers markets are useful in reducing resources usage.
Logistically a nightmare like having a “last chance” area where homeless and poor people can just take it before it gets thrown in the dumpster? Like, literally just allowing a space?
We put more effort into denying homeless people a place to exist than it would take to enable them to exist.
I know when I say “enable” people will immediately conflate that to “encourage”, but we’ve tried for decades to be as ruthless and unkind to homeless people and the numbers haven’t exactly plummeted.
I completely agree. Things like anti homeless architecture, shelter quality and the housing voucher system (and consequent rent gauging) are obscene.
Ending homelessness would take way way less money than the current system, but the capitalist elites need a threat to barely making ends meet workers so they don’t have time or energy to worry about their neighbor.
If it is something for the homeless people inside the same city, it’s fine. However, I was thinking about the scenario where food would get transported from the richer parts of the world to the poorer parts of the world. In that case, I do not see the viability of a “last chance” - part of the food would still get spoiled and thrown away, unless you want to feed the poor some spoiled food.
I’d rather see more people educated not to buy too much food in the first place, then direct the remaining to the poor (and even, if possible, produce less in the 1st place. Have fewer cows, less agricultural land and more wild terrain (forests and the likes) if possible).
Oh, for sure transporting food across the world is a disastrously inefficient way to solve it.
I may be wrong about this, but I dont think there are many (if any) food-poor countries that are that way because of a lack of local fertile land.
I don’t think waste and excess are really the issue, but rather misallocation of resources, like you mentioned, raising cattle (or growing coffee/cocoa) over primary foods for profit over basic needs.
Something-something-communism, I suppose.
Logistically it’s not a nightmare. We already do it, we get crops grown in country A, shipped to country B to be processed before shipping them off to country C to sell. We could easily work out to send less to C and more to D, if we wanted to.
It’s a capitalist choice to not supply everyone.
Logistically, ie making sure the food is still fresh or good Legally (as in the US it’s illegal to give food to the homeless in some places) There are some CSR initiatives from supermarkets like Lidl but in a capitalist society it’s just not profitable for the supply chain. Maybe a nightmare is too dramatic, but highly improbable in current society as it stands.
That’s true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_irradiation
We’ve had this technology for a fucking century now, food waste could easily be drastically reduced, this shit is on purpose
All that old growth wood furniture… It always makes me so sad knowing that it’s essentially a semi non-renewable resource
But it can be restored, reused, repurposed or made into something entirely different. Start woodworking and make the world a little bit better.
I call it The Treadmill. If you’re white, able-bodied, educated, motivated to play the game, etc. you can keep from falling off with what feels more or less like an easy walk. Until they speed it up. Or you get sick. Or stop playing the game.
how much food gets thrown away just because it isn’t picturesque?
I’ve tried growing tomatoes, and bub let me tell you, they look nothing like the pristine samples you find in grocery stores
The weird part is that the rest of us don’t simply devour those who are perpetuating this evil on almost everyone else.
Why doesn’t Ross, the largest friend, simply devour the others!?
Capitalism working as designed
I live in a very, very rural part of the country. Land is CHEAP; you can buy 100+ acres of forest for under $2000/acre. There are a lot of vacant houses. Why? Because no one wants to live here. (Obviously not no one, since I chose to move here, but still.) There aren’t jobs locally; part of the price I pay for living where I want to live is spending 3+ hours in a car commuting each day. The vacant houses are vacant because the people that lived there either died, or moved because they couldn’t get work. They’re not vacant because some venture capital real estate company is buying up rural homes just to hold on to them as they rot away.
The issue isn’t vacant housing; the issue is where the housing is, and whether it’s actually habitable or not.
Can you live on that land without having to pay taxes or anything?
Because in my country, any cheap land in a place with no employment isn’t viable due to needing employment to maintain ‘ownership’ of the land through fees to the state.
Also even if the issue is location, there is huge amounts of abandoned empty housing in cities with jobs. Squatters are constantly trying to live in such places and getting chased out by cops.
You have found the rub, there is always taxes. The issue is you need internet or local jobs and guess what outside of starmlink there was nothing in the places you can afford. The extra fun part is there are people who move to low COL areas after selling their property when retiring just to make it work. This is a reason that these locations sometimes have a lot of elderly people. Now the real fucked up part is that even this strange retirement tactic does not work if you never are able to buy a place.
