• !Europe Mod Team@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    There’s been reports for this link to be an ad… we’re allowing it nonetheless because the discussion is very rich (I, personally agree with many of the criticism that were done: products may not be socially or environmentally friendly, or even it may be better to support an European artist). The EU parliament is more like a tool, and sometimes it does work well. Oftentimes it just makes decisions that are not aligned with our values as a community. Nonetheless, the EU flag is nowadays an important symbol that’s being undermined by bigots and propaganda. That’s why I’ve been ignoring the reports of this as an ad. I believe the underlying message to be more important. And, as I said, the discussion here has brought very good points that I wouldn’t have thought so just by myself.

    Best regards, anzo.

  • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 days ago

    I feel like we shouldn’t copy the American flag waving and blind patriotism. I believe we’re much better off with a Federation of EU States than without it, and I see Schengen as a huge accomplishment, but the EU as an institution has many problems we shouldn’t be blind to.

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      6 days ago

      Still, I think that what you often see in Europe is almost complete indifference to European identity, and there’s a huge amount of middle ground between that and the ludicrously excessive blind nationalism that you see in the USA. I personally think it would be a good thing if we embraced an identity as Europeans a little more. Being proud of European identity, and even waving a flag once in a while, isn’t a bad thing. Patriotism gives you something to fight for. A common identity is needed for people to achieve more collectively. The important thing is to not be blind or arrogant. You have to base that identity on reality, and work to make sure that identity stands for something good, rather than assuming it will automatically be so. Too much success and empire building causes rot to set in, but the EU is uniquely positioned to be a post-imperial entity. What comes after empire building is up to us.

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    6 days ago

    Show your support for European values by buying clothes made outside of Europe under horrible environmental and human conditions! (That’s my assumption since there is no info on the website)

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    7 days ago

    Were people in Europe wearing shirts with American flags before?

    I wouldn’t think so.

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      7 days ago

      I have one, with a small flag. If it’s in the stores, you buy it without much thinking. People in my area also wear Canadian flags, Scottish flags or the Union Jack on their clothes. For example. They’re just quite recognizable. Simulacra in the Baudrillard sense, even.

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      6 days ago

      There are also a lot of shirts being sold here in Europe that have names of states or cities printed on them (such as California, Los Angeles, New York, etc).

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    7 days ago

    Or just stop buying clothes unless you really need it (hint, you don’t)

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    6 days ago

    Yeah no thx nationalism will definitely defeat the threat of nationalism.

    Probably this is just marketing by the people selling those shirts but ehhh

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      6 days ago

      Europe isn’t a nation, it’s a group of nations and there is a big reason to support it now

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        6 days ago

        Yeah agree and America isn’t a state it’s a group of states and we need to make both the united states and the group of nations great again

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        6 days ago

        The EU federalists would really like to make it one though.

        Not sure why they think that, considering every single attempt in history to centralise political power in Europe has failed.

        Decentralisation of power and denationalisation seems a better way forward

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      6 days ago

      With a couple of nukes, you might be able to speed up tectonic movement and get your island over here! (Feel free to push the UK out of the way, they don’t want to be here aparently)

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        5 days ago

        I’m not really up on the latest research into nuclear powered continental drift but I’m fairly certain that Australia is on course to collide with Indonesia in about 100 million years. So they’re going the wrong direction.

        You’ll need to turn left and go around Africa, if you see Brazil you’ve gone too far.

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    7 days ago

    Not a fan of the hashtag because of how Trump it sounds, but I might order like 10 pairs of socks because why not.