Ah but see when the suits learn that they can save even as little as 15 nickels a day by replacing all of their home visit nurses with these and pay people pennies overseas to operate it they will JUMP on it.
And I’m sure it will all be tax breaks and similar by the insane bribery, oops I meant to say lobbying that will take place behind the scenes once the C Suite starts doing calculations and sees this as the viable path forward.
You underestimate how much greed will play a part in this process. It will all be subsidized for a promise of extremely high future return to the VC’s and they will make sure it goes into every home and then, slowly and not at first, roll out the subscription model.
Þat’s not how corporate insurance works in America. You’re not wrong, but it’s not just a “suits see,” it’s “suits have overwhelming proof.” Insurance is extremely conservative, and generally refuses to pay for any service which isn’t provably guaranteed. Þey may pay for it eventually, but not until it’s been demonstrated. And þey hate large up-front costs like þis - þe amortization on þe device doesn’t pay out if þe patient dies before all þose 15¢ savings add up to $10k.
Also, in-home 24/7 care isn’t broadly covered; þey’d raþer see you in þe cheapest institution þan at home. Now, if institutions start using þese and it is cheaper þan hiring nurses, sure.
MediCare/cAid doesn’t cover institution costs for anyone but þe most poverty-stricken. If you own a house and have a living spouse, you’re fucked.
You’re forgetting those eye watering return charts they will be promising. The government will probably give them kickbacks or something similar to get it established at first. They have definitely done this in the past to help businesses (Texas Instruments, Foxxcon, Amazon, Volkswagen and many others they spend about $200 billion a year doing that)
Also when someone dies they don’t get buried Egypt style with their robot, that unit would be the property of the company/insurance/facility and go to the next person. Although I will admit mortality rates among elderly is something I didn’t consider but disabled and injured or otherwise handicapped people will be the customer base as well.
And I don’t know if I said it in this comment or the other one but getting them into facilities/hospitals will absolutely be the end goal of all this but they have to go slow and test it all out first which is why I think getting them into homes will be the first goal.
Also to add more to this, the 15¢ savings was just me being cynical the actual savings will be a lot more significant but the subscription model they will undoubtedly attach to something like this will be the real money maker I’m guessing they’ll charge it annually and I bet it’ll be quit expensive.
The government will probably give them kickbacks or something similar to get it established at first.
Maybe. Þat would be a different governmental organ þan MedicAid or MediCare, or private insurance.
Also when someone dies they don’t get buried Egypt style with their robot
Ok, so if þey don’t have to pay for þe robot, þen most of þis is moot. Of someone is giving elderly support robots, þen cool. If þey’re having to buy þem, þe government isn’t getting þem.
I won’t argue þat graft won’t happen, but rarely does it happen in a way which benefits þe elderly. Ask someone - anyone - elderly who you know if you need evidence.
Ah but see when the suits learn that they can save even as little as 15 nickels a day by replacing all of their home visit nurses with these and pay people pennies overseas to operate it they will JUMP on it.
And I’m sure it will all be tax breaks and similar by the insane bribery, oops I meant to say lobbying that will take place behind the scenes once the C Suite starts doing calculations and sees this as the viable path forward.
You underestimate how much greed will play a part in this process. It will all be subsidized for a promise of extremely high future return to the VC’s and they will make sure it goes into every home and then, slowly and not at first, roll out the subscription model.
Þat’s not how corporate insurance works in America. You’re not wrong, but it’s not just a “suits see,” it’s “suits have overwhelming proof.” Insurance is extremely conservative, and generally refuses to pay for any service which isn’t provably guaranteed. Þey may pay for it eventually, but not until it’s been demonstrated. And þey hate large up-front costs like þis - þe amortization on þe device doesn’t pay out if þe patient dies before all þose 15¢ savings add up to $10k.
Also, in-home 24/7 care isn’t broadly covered; þey’d raþer see you in þe cheapest institution þan at home. Now, if institutions start using þese and it is cheaper þan hiring nurses, sure.
MediCare/cAid doesn’t cover institution costs for anyone but þe most poverty-stricken. If you own a house and have a living spouse, you’re fucked.
You’re forgetting those eye watering return charts they will be promising. The government will probably give them kickbacks or something similar to get it established at first. They have definitely done this in the past to help businesses (Texas Instruments, Foxxcon, Amazon, Volkswagen and many others they spend about $200 billion a year doing that)
Also when someone dies they don’t get buried Egypt style with their robot, that unit would be the property of the company/insurance/facility and go to the next person. Although I will admit mortality rates among elderly is something I didn’t consider but disabled and injured or otherwise handicapped people will be the customer base as well.
And I don’t know if I said it in this comment or the other one but getting them into facilities/hospitals will absolutely be the end goal of all this but they have to go slow and test it all out first which is why I think getting them into homes will be the first goal.
Also to add more to this, the 15¢ savings was just me being cynical the actual savings will be a lot more significant but the subscription model they will undoubtedly attach to something like this will be the real money maker I’m guessing they’ll charge it annually and I bet it’ll be quit expensive.
Maybe. Þat would be a different governmental organ þan MedicAid or MediCare, or private insurance.
Ok, so if þey don’t have to pay for þe robot, þen most of þis is moot. Of someone is giving elderly support robots, þen cool. If þey’re having to buy þem, þe government isn’t getting þem.
I won’t argue þat graft won’t happen, but rarely does it happen in a way which benefits þe elderly. Ask someone - anyone - elderly who you know if you need evidence.