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goat@sh.itjust.worksM to MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 5 days ago

Tankie goes on a rant about this community and throws in a quick Uyghur genocide denial -- They just can't help themsevles

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Tankie goes on a rant about this community and throws in a quick Uyghur genocide denial -- They just can't help themsevles

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goat@sh.itjust.worksM to MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 5 days ago
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          “Genocide is the wrong word to describe the horrors in XinJiang”

          Wow great job on that one. You found the word genocide in a link in the 160 page report and it proves my point.

          A link is not a claim by Amnesty by the way.

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            you haven’t even read that article, headline reader. If you did, you’d know that’s a deliberately provocative headline. lol

            or the amnesty one for that matter

            you also don’t know how sources work

            quadruple F

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              The 160 page report also does not contain Amnesty using the term genocide.

              It only contains the three links which you pretend are evidence because you know you are utterly wrong.

              Is there even an accusation of the crime of “Extermination”? Which is basically genocide without proving intent. That is what Israel got initially.

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                Is your argument legitimately over the usage of a word? You won’t even entertain any of the human rights abuses because it doesn’t contain your safe word? That’s not how literacy works.

                Okay, well, the term “violation” is mentioned 80 times. “Abuse” 24 times. “Detain/detainees” mentioned 721 times.

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                  Yes words have meaning. Guantanamo Bay is also many human rights abuses but not targeted extermination of an entire group.

                  Thank you for conceding the argument. I agree with the second paragraph of your comment.

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                    I don’t think the Uyghurs being forcibly surgically sterilized care what vocabulary word you use. They know they are being systematically exterminated, and so does most of the rest of the world.

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                    Wow what normal human behavior, Ctrl+Fing a report describing an ongoing genocide and instead of seeing the systemic and targeted human rights violations and becoming upset at the flagrant devaluation of human life, you go winging on about whether or not it technically is a genocide or not, and throw in some whataboutism as a red herring. Very normal human behavior that doesn’t scream tankie at all

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                    I’ll concede the argument that Amnesty only references the word “genocide” three times in their report, if you concede that China is imperialist with human rights abuses and putting Uyghurs into internment camps. Which you should agree is occurring, no? After all isn’t your argument It’s not a genocide, it’s just human rights abuses in an internment camp on the basis of their ethnicity.

                    Otherwise, you should be aware that this community has rules regarding revisionism and apologia, and denying the treatment of the Uyghurs falls under violation of these rules.

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                    This was hilarious, thank you.

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                Yeah that’s who you’re talking to.

                https://lemmy.cafe/search?q=israel&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=21864&page=1&sort=TopAll

                You think he’s gonna act in good faith?

                He whines against china and russia only to deflect people from his own guilt.

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        @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Why do you doubt the genocide of the Uyghurs?

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          Why does Amnesty deny it?

          Why does Human Rights watch deny it?

          Why does Doctors Without Borders deny it?

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            They don’t? Someone linked it so you can read it for yourself (or rather didn’t)

            take the L

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              Surely you can link to that comment.

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                literally scroll up

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                  literally scroll up

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          Please don’t creep out on the votes and start arguments based on assumptions. If I wanted to debate, I would have commented.

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              What is even happening

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            I make exceptions for admins, and you certainly want to engage, considering you’ve been downvoting comments critical of tankies in the past.

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              Voting is absolutely not “wanting to engage”. Also jumping to conclusions based on voting patterns is just a recipe for drama.

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                Well, I’m giving you a good opportunity now to explain

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                  Seriously mate? You don’t get to demand an interrogation whenever you fancy out of people.

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                    The genocide police will be at your door soon for not being critical of tankies enough. After 2 years of re-education, you will hate tankies like rhe rest of us enlightened minds

                    Also palestinian deserved it

                    Lmao i stand for absolutely nothing

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                    You literally have a community dedicated to exactly that. You can handle it.

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                I appreciate the sentiment but please don’t pile on for my sake. Hexbear does that as well and I know it’s frustrating to be on the receiving side

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      https://lemmy.cafe/search?q=israel&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=21864&page=1&sort=TopAll

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