• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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        “Genocide is the wrong word to describe the horrors in XinJiang”

        Wow great job on that one. You found the word genocide in a link in the 160 page report and it proves my point.

        A link is not a claim by Amnesty by the way.

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          you haven’t even read that article, headline reader. If you did, you’d know that’s a deliberately provocative headline. lol

          or the amnesty one for that matter

          you also don’t know how sources work

          quadruple F

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            The 160 page report also does not contain Amnesty using the term genocide.

            It only contains the three links which you pretend are evidence because you know you are utterly wrong.

            Is there even an accusation of the crime of “Extermination”? Which is basically genocide without proving intent. That is what Israel got initially.

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              Is your argument legitimately over the usage of a word? You won’t even entertain any of the human rights abuses because it doesn’t contain your safe word? That’s not how literacy works.

              Okay, well, the term “violation” is mentioned 80 times. “Abuse” 24 times. “Detain/detainees” mentioned 721 times.

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                Yes words have meaning. Guantanamo Bay is also many human rights abuses but not targeted extermination of an entire group.

                Thank you for conceding the argument. I agree with the second paragraph of your comment.

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                  I don’t think the Uyghurs being forcibly surgically sterilized care what vocabulary word you use. They know they are being systematically exterminated, and so does most of the rest of the world.

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                  Wow what normal human behavior, Ctrl+Fing a report describing an ongoing genocide and instead of seeing the systemic and targeted human rights violations and becoming upset at the flagrant devaluation of human life, you go winging on about whether or not it technically is a genocide or not, and throw in some whataboutism as a red herring. Very normal human behavior that doesn’t scream tankie at all

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                  I’ll concede the argument that Amnesty only references the word “genocide” three times in their report, if you concede that China is imperialist with human rights abuses and putting Uyghurs into internment camps. Which you should agree is occurring, no? After all isn’t your argument It’s not a genocide, it’s just human rights abuses in an internment camp on the basis of their ethnicity.

                  Otherwise, you should be aware that this community has rules regarding revisionism and apologia, and denying the treatment of the Uyghurs falls under violation of these rules.

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                    Amnesty used the word genocide zero times in their report. Unless you count text in a hyperlink as a word usage.

                    Do you have any actual evidence, or is your entire argument limited to hoping nobody fact checks anything you say?