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    Thanks for sharing the article, but i think the title of the post is not a good place for your personal comment on the article. I believe it would be better if you were to use the article’s headline (General, envoy … future Ukraine president? Valerii Zaluzhnyi’s London waiting game) as a title and put your comment as a description or as a comment. This way people won’t have to decipher what the article is about by looking at the url, which for me (using Voyager on android) isn’t possible since the app only shows the beginning of the url.

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    Zaluzhnyi declined, but also pledged loyalty, up to a point. He promised Yermak he would not criticise Zelenskyy in public while the war continued

    What in the loaded bullshit

    What is the point of this type of innuendo?

    So far, Zaluzhnyi has not communicated that message, although there is an increasing belief in Kyiv that he is readying a political run. The general is coy even privately with close associates about his plans, but many assume he is just biding his time before entering the fray.

    So… there’s no particular reason to think he might have any interest in politics at all, but The Guardian is real enthusiastic about painting it that he’s just “biding his time.”

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      Others in Ukraine see him as a potential political figure. He didn’t deny the possibility to become one - which is a hint as bold as you can get.

      There is an informal rule in Ukraine to put politics aside during the war. Cause Ukrainian society was very divided by politics, much alike USA. Protests recently were an exception, because people felt like the current government break the “no politics, everything to win the war” rule with their powergrab move towards anticorruption institutions.

      Zaluzhnyi is a previous commander, he knows well why this is so important not to bring politics back. He is also undeniable pro-Ukrainian. Even if I wouldn’t like him as a president, I can applaud to his principles.

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        Others in Ukraine see him as a potential political figure.

        Which others, though? Specifically who in Ukraine sees him as a potential political figure? The only one named in the article is Paul Manafort.

        There is so much vigorous disinformation in this space that I want to read pretty critically anything that sounds like this, and I saw plenty of stink lines crop up more or less instantly when I held it close to my face. For all I know it’s legit, it just ticks a few of the disinfo boxes.

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          I mean, all the opinion polls for starters?

          https://ukraine-elections.com.ua/uk/socopros/vybory_prezidenta

          https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2025/02/20/7499275/

          https://www.iri.org/resources/national-survey-of-ukraine-july-2025/

          https://socis.kiev.ua/ua/2025-06-25/

          He is stable second place. Nobody is even close. I bet Zelensky himself do see him as a major threat for his reelections.

          Paul Manafort was just one of the names we heard. But with his ratings, he can be picky about who he is dealing with. Literally any oligarch in Ukraine would pay him a lot if that means he would do some favours.

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            why would anyone think Zel will run for re-election? after years of this shitshow wouldn’t you be like, “i’m good. i’m done. i did my part” and fucking bail?

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            Paul Manafort was just one of the names we heard.

            Who were the others?

            I bet Zelensky himself do see him as a major threat for his reelections.

            I get your point. He’s popular and at some point when the dying stops, it’ll be relevant. I would say it would be relevant if Vance was able to replace Zelensky with this guy before the war was over, but I don’t think Vance is competent enough to make that happen, fortunately enough. I feel like people in that part of the world have a lot stronger civil immune system against disinfo.

            Further, if Ukraine survives and everyone gets to go back to normal life, my guess would be that Zelensky wouldn’t give two shits if a competent military commander got to take his job with his biggest concern being losing the election, but who knows.

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    “Why does Europe so stubbornly refuse to become our banana republic? Aren’t we the Good Guys?”

    — some US American politician

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    By the time Murca wakes up, these fuckers are all gonna be safe somewhere like Mars.

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      The article is literally about how JD Vance advocated to have Zelensky replaced. You know, a coup.

      But then again - here’s you from 15 hours ago: США должны быть разрушенными. Which translates to “The USA must be destroyed”.

      so - yeah. You’e got your side.

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        No, 95% of the article has nothing to do with Vance, and even if the part about Vance’s influence is what you wanted to point out, you could’ve done it without this reddit-tier gibberish about… kryptonite?

        here’s you from 15 hours ago: США должны быть разрушенными. Which translates to “The USA must be destroyed”.

        May be worth noting there were three dots before and a question mark at the end of that sentence, and it was a reply to a meme comparing USA to Carthage. Sounds 100% serious.