Direct link to the LLM Policy Discussion: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187
Example of a KDE dev not wanting environmental concerns to play any role, despite KDE having an environmental project:
Devs rejecting any notion of transparency by disclosing AI usage in code submissions (in direct opposition to advice from the FSFE):
And all of this is coming right after the debacle with an AI slop project being allowed to give a presentation at Akademy, and the person asking how this was allowed being blocked by KDE:
https://lemmy.nz/post/42029517
as well as the discussion thread bringing up legitimate concerns about AI usage being closed:
https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333/164
As someone who genuinely loves KDE, and has even donated to the project multiple times, I sadly have to accept that the majority of KDE have hopped onto the Pro-AI train, and they will not be dissuaded otherwise.
KDE is huge, you can’t just fork all of it (of course technically you could, but it is not much use). You maybe could fork individual projects, a bit like https://vim-classic.org/
I was thinking of having some kind of online list for packages without AI stuff. Of course a 100% slop free desktop installation is probably impossible nowadays, it would still be interesting to see how far one can go.
Yeah, the point is that I need something that has many features only available in KDE.
Would it work if it’s done from a previous, presumably untainted commit? I know it’s possible that I’m being a bit ingenuous, but I still think that doing something is better that doing anything — just as there are explicitly anti-AI forks of other complex projects such as Firefox (both mobile [IronFox] and desktop [Konform], and both mostly untainted), and even a reimplementation of Linux in Rust (HyperOS, this one totally untainted).
If not, I have some quite good architectural ideas for a new DE, because other big DEs are or ambiguous about AI (for example, Cinnamon, MATE, GNOME or COSMIC, Hyprland), or are not as extensible as KDE (COSMIC, MATE, Cinnamon, LXQt).
Such a list already exists!
Edit: i read the comment wrong, this is kind of the opposite list lmao. But it’s still useful so imma leave the comment up
There’s also https://noailist.org/, which is based on projects (not just OSS) committing to not using AI. That’s probably also the only viable approach, if you want a list of projects without AI stuff, since projects can easily be using AI without it being visible to third parties inspecting the output of the projects
Omg, I knew Open Slopware and a few more, but not that one! Thank you!
This site is great thank you!