Direct link to the LLM Policy Discussion: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187

Example of a KDE dev not wanting environmental concerns to play any role, despite KDE having an environmental project:

Devs rejecting any notion of transparency by disclosing AI usage in code submissions (in direct opposition to advice from the FSFE):

And all of this is coming right after the debacle with an AI slop project being allowed to give a presentation at Akademy, and the person asking how this was allowed being blocked by KDE:

https://lemmy.nz/post/42029517

as well as the discussion thread bringing up legitimate concerns about AI usage being closed:

https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333/164

As someone who genuinely loves KDE, and has even donated to the project multiple times, I sadly have to accept that the majority of KDE have hopped onto the Pro-AI train, and they will not be dissuaded otherwise.

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    Would it work if it’s done from a previous, presumably untainted commit?

    Theoretically yes, but at the moment I have more than 150 KDE packages installed; you would need to do this for each one and then make sure that they actually work together in this specific combination. Then, for each package you would need to check if any security bugfixes exist upstream that don’t exist in your fork and backport these.

    I would say that is the bare minimum; you probably also want any bugfixes that are implemented upstream.

    I guess with a team of a few people this would be doable, at least for some time; sooner or later some dependency (e.g. systemd) will be updated in such a way that your fork is no longer compatible and then you will either have to integrate the slop code from upstream to make it work, or do that on your own.

    By the way, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Desktop_Environment is a fork of KDE 3, but that has no support for e.g. dark mode.

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      By the way, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Desktop_Environment is a fork of KDE 3, but that has no support for e.g. dark mode.

      Oof, I didn’t remember that one existed, and has even better extendability than KDE (and tabbing support, which I love), but yeah, there are some problems as that one.

      I think I’ll try to support them in any way I can, and to contribute with anything I can.

      I know about programming and computer sciences (I’m studying that), although I don’t know anything about actual coding, and I have some big-ish amount of architectural ideas (although I don’t know how good these are).

      I’m also a music producer and sound designer.

      I hope I can make at least a bit of difference.