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Cake day: July 8th, 2023

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  • Happened at 1am, not 1:30am. Bars close at 2am. The previous incident last year also happened at 12:40am. Orta was the one that expressed concern when seeing the open container, but also said that alcohol wasn’t involved and Martinez wasn’t intoxicated. They should have a toxicology report, but where is it?

    That highway is 65 mph which means most people are probably driving 70-80 because that’s what they do everywhere around where I live. If you drive 60-65, they assume you are the one that was drinking on trying not to get pulled over.

    I frequently drive with 3 passengers and they are always looking at their phones or sleeping.

    The previous incident hidden for a full year, so there is evidence of cover up which is a big part of conspiracy theories.

    Things that could have happened:

    There is a bar next to where it happened. A drunk person could have walked in the road or drove in front of them. Almost zero reaction time and passengers would be unaware. They will drive off fast to not get a dui and be at fault.

    Brakes could have been tampered with. It was only days before he was going to sign the statement.

    They could have been drinking, but you’d think that information would be out by now because they would have tested for this.

    The offramp is about 350 ft. The stopping distance for that vehicle with a 1.5 second reaction time is about 340ft at 65mph. He could slam on his brakes and still slide right into that pole if he swerved to avoid something.

    It’s probably not a conspiracy, but it definitely could be. He was already involved in something the government was hiding for a year and was about to sign the sworn statement. That does make it semi-credible.


  • I think you can voice your opinion and then take action by not taking action.

    Here is what I’ve noticed:

    Trade in values are much lower, but I’ve been monitoring carvana and Tesla’s sites and the sale prices haven’t really gone down. These companies are all profiting from the protest and using it as an excuse.

    New cars being destroyed are just going to get bought by the insurance companies. Tesla would just match a buyer to a new VIN so it doesn’t really affect them.

    Protestors destroying cars is not a good look. They will focus only on these people’s actions and not Elon.

    Here is an example:

    There is a store near my house I used to go to all of the time, but one day I was reading the Google reviews and people were saying the owner/employees were kicking Chinese people out and told them they need to go back to their country and that they are the reason for covid. They were also negative to many other non white customers that had similar situations, so I just decided not to shop there. Now they put signs around the neighborhood because they are open and people stopped going there. The signs don’t say the name of the store and only have the address. No physical damage done, but they are feeling it.


  • I honestly don’t understand why people are protesting this way. Most Tesla owners bought their car before they knew Elon was that kind of crazy, myself included. The value of my Tesla has dropped below what I owe, and selling it would hurt me financially, but then at the same time it would provide a really great deal for a conservative that really supports Trump/Musk.

    The most effective protest would be to not buy a new one and not sell your current one. Lack of used Tesla’s available would mean used price goes up, but then lack of new sales would mean new price would need to go down. There will always be people buying a new Tesla, but low sales would hurt the stock price and lower cost would hurt the profit margin.

    I did test drive the new model Y. I like it, but I wouldn’t get FSD because it’s dangerous. I like that it’s one of the most American made vehicles. I’m not going to buy it because of Elon.

    You can’t put people in jail for not selling or buying a Tesla. Why not just protest that way?