lol yeah that’s not happening.

The potential host country could decline not to host the President and that’s about it. Countries can do that right now and I wouldn’t blame him, although I doubt Trump will be traveling much.

You cannot reason a man out of a position he did not reason himself into.

If you’re looking at a guy’s resume and it includes graduating from UPENN and getting admitted into Stanford, then launching/guiding/acquiring multiple successful companies and you’re then concluding “nah this guy ain’t smart” or “i’m not sure if he’s smart” it’s a position you reached not through logic/reason.

The author is taking a shot in the dark on Musk’s IQ and what the author wants it to be. 110 is normie. Isaacson, a very respected biographer, claims Musk’s SAT was 1400, which would have put him somewhere around ~93 percentile. I want to see proof of that score, but I’d guess Musk’ IQ is around 125-130 and around 95-97 percentile.

Trying to boil Musk’s success down simply to lying is vastly underestimating him and playing in his favor.

On top of what everyone else is saying, he was also highly competent and looked out for his friends.

Consider the 2016 election and the dangers of writing someone off.

Initially, the GOP establishment wrote Trump off as a flash in the pan. He’d enjoy an upswing, probably do something really dumb, and either way voters would come to their senses ahead of primary voting.

By the time the GOP establishment realized how big a threat trump was, it was too late.

Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign was pushing for Trump as GOP nominee, assuming he’d be an easy opponent.

We know how that turned out.

Trump is not Musk, it’s not a direct parallel, but it illustrates the dangers of underestimating someone.

Everyone deluding themselves into thinking Musk is an idiot (or 100 IQ) are creating conditions favorable to Musk.

(I wouldn’t be surprised if Musk is of above average intelligence but not a true genius).

“what the fuck” are you confused about?

Eh, I don’t know. Lincoln was well aware that he was walking into a massively complex situation with nothing short of the future of the country 100% on the line. He knew he was doing it at great personal risk, and I am sure on some level he knew it could (and ultimately, would) cost him his life.

Lincoln’s life was cut short so ultimately we never got to see what the next phase of his life would look like, but he persevered in the face of the greatest struggle this nation has ever faced.

Trump and friends may well create as dangerous of a scenario as the civil war, especially if Thiel, Vance, and the other tech authoritarians achieve their goal of radically overhauling if not outright destroying the country.

that’s a good point. Musk has pissed everyone in the government off. I imagine that many of those sympathetic to Musk in the regulatory and law enforcement agencies don’t appreciate the ways in which he’s inserted himself in this conflagration and his immensely heavy handed approaches.

lmao I am underestimating no one. Guys… touch some grass.

Musks’s technical knowledge is probably pretty mid. Musk sure as hell isn’t designing the rockets.

Acknowledging that Musk isn’t an idiot in no way devalues the work of the many, many intelligent people around him. Why you’d think that I’m taking anything away from anyone else is baffling. Literally baffling. How did you come to that conclusion?

Oh I’m quite confident that they and their monied backers are very interested in the plight of the farmers. When those farmers get knocked out of the market, the big agri corps can buy farms for pennies on the dollar.

I’d be shocked if he’s actually in good enough physical health to run again.

Sadly, I think Vance and his ilk might actually be a graver threat and Trump leaving the picture affords them an opportunity to rise up. The corporate cyberpunk dystopias they’re dreaming of are terrifying.

Evidence he bought his way in?

Sure, there are a lot of dumb people at those companies. But that’s not the point. Failures don’t prove that the leadership or specific individuals are dumb. Plenty of smart people have failed.

But have fun inadvertently supporting Musk!

Deep red states have long relied on wealthier, mostly blue states for hand outs. Without that flow of money many of those states would sink into underdeveloped status.

Edit: and if red states want to take a chainsaw to their own legs by turning off the money tap themselves, well have fun with that.

everyone where? Can you link the evidence or provide details so I can try to find it?

Musk’s wealth isn’t the best indicator of his intelligence. It’s more circumstantial evidence at best.

“corporations with those who own them.”

This veers towards been an non sequitur. The claim isn’t that Musk is the corporation or that he is responsible for every decision. However, he is one of the (and probably THE) prominent voices in his companies and his decisions can massively impact the company’s trajectory. One success is luck, multiple successes suggests there’s a lot more than luck at play.

you’re not getting into UPENN being a complete idiot. Whoever started the company, Musk oversaw periods of the growth in SpaceX, Tesla, Paypal etc.

Musk is (edit: not) the smartest person in the world like he thinks he is. But it’s nearly an objective fact that he’s not stupid.

This is such a dumb hill to die on, and more importantly it benefits Musk.

edit: and as for failed programs, welcome to the world of business. Google, Amazon, Microsoft Apple, etc. constantly launch ideas that don’t pan out. Are their leaders and engineers and everyone else dumb because a project failed?

Eh, I despise Musk and believe he is a grave threat.

But this “Musk isn’t smart” narrative is a waste of time and underestimating Musk makes him more dangerous.

Tesla was a nothing burger company before he acquired it. SpaceX has been highly successful under his leadership. Musk may not have provided much technical knowledge, but he’s accomplished too much for it to be random luck, and steering such companies, even if not on a daily basis, is going to require applied intellectual skill.

Edit: guys you can downvote all you want but underestimating Musk just weakens your position and aids him. You’re not going to an Ivy League school with average or below intelligence.

You’re also not starting and guiding various companies to high level success if you’re dumb. Yes Musk has failed projects. Essentially every company and many if not most entrepreneurs have suffered failures.

Allegedly he also got a relatively high SAT score (1400) according to Isaacson, a respected biographer (I’d want to see hard proof however).

Musk’s IQ is probably something like 125, not 160. But it’s not going to be 90 or other like that.

But I guess you can go ahead and play into his hand and boost him by underestimating him.

Dude there’s no need for petty insults. Clowns are highly trained professionals who bring joy to the world. No need to insult them with unfair associations to slimy dinosaur politicians.

They shall be tut-tutted once, tut-tutted twice, tut-tutted three times. And they might get a stern glare as well.

I’m pretty sure once she crosses into “physical” action (not the right word but not sure what to use) she’s probably just getting removed herself. In this hypothetical case, maybe that encourages widespread resistance, but I think we’ll hear crickets in a few weeks.

If she’s going to extreme measures, probably best to do so as a last resort. She might be able to pin Adams under state laws or other mechanisms to try and remove him. If nothing else, better to go into a showdown with Trump with stronger legal backing.

So what does the governor do? What does anyone do? What’s “the” action? The only avenue forward is hopefully legal measures because if governor breaks any serious laws she’s done and nothing happens.

Yeah, it is all political theater because one party is much more powerful than the other.