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  • Lol, ok. Interesting response.

    Unprocessed red meat is probably fine - my point is that Mediterranean diets contains processed red meat. Is the study counting that?

    Alcohol is also consumed by Mediterraneans. Is the study covering that?

    Is the volume of calories controlled for, or the ammout of red meat, or alcohol?

    I’m being a bit facetious with my stupid 6000 calories example, but thats kind of my point. It is not clear what a Mediterranean diet is from the write up. So we’re both making assumptions without data.

    You’re assuming moderate = good. I’m being flippant by pointing out that that isn’t what the write up says, because it isn’t clear what it is testing for.

    Sure, all things in moderate is a valid point. But thats not what the study is apparently saying.

    It is equally valid to say “exercise is good”. Sure, but what has that to do with a Mediterranean diet - which is the missing bit of info.

    Anyway, not trying to piss you off. Enjoy your drink, in moderation of course ;)

    Have a good weekend.


  • I’m not disagreeing but Spanish people eat “jamon de York” which is processed red meat.

    There are studies saying their in no benefit from any alcohol consumption.

    So I’m keen to know what studies are actually measuring against as there is a lot of contradictory info out there.

    As you say “moderation is key” but is it? I mean where has that been measured in these studies? If I say I eat 6000 calories but it is all Mediterranean food, is that going to bring my risk of stroke down in this paper?

    Hence why I’m looking for the actual data.













  • I think there are a few issues:

    1. How do you prove kid A gave kid B measels?

    2. Why isn’t kid B vaccinated? Because they don’t need to be, group immunity. Well that is no longer true with anti vax so…

    3. Kid B then gives kid C measels, so kid B’s parents are now liable.

    4. Your in small claims court. You have to prove damages. So you’re going for loss of earning for an adult looking after the kid + pain and suffering. Is that payout going to be worth filing papers, legal advice etc.

    You’d be better passing a law to mandate vaccines, but that won’t be politically viable.

    Just my thoughts - am not Canadian.


  • I’ve been giving this some thought and the only line I can see is banning the calls for violence against a individual or protected group.

    I think anything more or less restrictive causes trouble.

    Example points:

    • Cannot discuss declaring war (voilence) on another country.
    • Can never lie or can not cause harm = can not tell a joke.
    • Cannot ban misinformation = who decides? In the 1960 being gay was illegal, should the gay right movement have been banned as misinformation?

    Societies grow by challenging norms.

    I think our weird society can be fixed by teaching critical thinking in schools and introspection. However, philosophers have been saying similar things for at least 2000 years and it hasn’t caught on yet.

    Happy to discuss the above as I’d like to work the angles for a better line, if we think there is one.