Says the dude who’s spent this whole time defending a free market economy?

You can’t defend the free market and then be aghast when the free market decides plastics are profitable.

Oh, nope. Rereading it, you’re totally right. Just a little of my dyslexia seeping in lol. My bad!

Yes, exactly why I said it’s a platitude. It’s thoughtless and trite. I’m saying: consumption is not ethical, no matter which system. There is no ethical consumption.

That’s a false dichotomy…even if we agreed with your definition of all consumption being unethical, it wouldn’t mean that there aren’t different levels of unethical practices used to produce those consumables.

All consumption being unethical does not mean that all forms of production are equally unethical. If that’s the case you wouldn’t really have a problem with sending the kids back to the mines.

It paints consumers as mere puppets or robots who are unable to make choices or decisions that could lead to a reduction of suffering.

Can you point to a time in history where a general boycott of a dangerous or harmful product was successful without the help of government intervention?

Any other system created by humans is flawed and infected the human disease, doomed to create suffering and torment.

And apparently that doesn’t happen under capitalism? Then what exactly are you bitching about plastic for?

“ethical consumption” in any other living system is wishful thinking. It doesn’t exist.

Again, your argument is based on a forced false dichotomy.

Not to mention that it seems like you are really just a libertarian angry at consumers for participating in the “free market”.

You can’t simultaneously believe that the free market is the best way to regulate the economy, but upset at the people for their consumption habits in a free market.

Yeah, and helping feed people wasn’t exactly his original motivation for the haber-bosch process either. During the late 19th century empires were running low on natural sources of nitrates for making gun powder, as the British had held a near monopoly of the guano mines in South America and India.

Judging by this, his time as an artillery man for the prussians, his combustion research after he finished the haber process, and his over all obsession with creating weapons of war… It’s pretty safe to assume fertilizer was an afterthought.

Fritz Haber for example

I mean… Haber isn’t exactly a giant of morality and ethics. He did invent most of the chemical weapons utilized in WW1, and expressly defended their use as weapons.

This is one of the reasons I stopped listening to NPR in the first place. During the Trump administration they kept letting Trump’s mouthpieces say whatever they wanted for like 15 min, and then give like 3 min to the opposition to explain how everything they said was a bold face lie. There just wasn’t any push back from the actual journalist.

That and they canceled Ask Me Another, which is pretty much the only thing I would ever give them money for.