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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.workstoComic Strips@lemmy.worldBanned books
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    1 year ago

    I think you’re confused what is happening, do you think when the Nazis banned books they still sold them in shops and carried them in public libraries? Do you think banning books was the sole extent of the bad things they did? I don’t know why you’d assume I’d think they did nothing wrong when I’m simply arguing that there’s a very clear reality not all books are suitable for children or a school environment.

    Do you not think that there should be rules for schools? You think that the process by which books are banned is wrong but i bet if you suggested a system it’d involve public accountability and etc which would lead to you coming up with something very similar to the actual system in place.

    What you mean is you think the people democratically elected to control school boards and educational departments are the wrong people for the job, and of course in many cases I very much agree.

    That doesn’t mean I think every ‘banned book’ should be taught to children as a matter of principle.


  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.workstoComic Strips@lemmy.worldBanned books
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    1 year ago

    I know what it’s trying to say but it’s not saying that - this is defund the police all over again, why is it so hard to say fund better alternatives rather than relying on police in situations they’re not suitable…

    Like this is a very simple logic on the comic, banned book list becomes reading list - a commonly held foolish notion it seems. This isn’t what anyone wants to happen, everyone here minus a few wingnuts is saying that it should be a process based on merit - one person even said it should be tasked to people with masters degrees in determining suitability of literature for children.

    What’s the next one ‘kick puppies’ where we say everyone should kick puppies,’ by which we mean of course stroke them gently and cuddle with them.

    I don’t understand why supporting sensible thungs that might actually convince people is anathema to the left. You don’t need to just say the dumbest thing and hope people assume you mean something totally different and sensible.


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    1 year ago

    I think the comic is the one that is pushing sillyness about lesson planning, it’s saying not to do to that and instead just assume the banned books have value simply because they’re banned.

    Why don’t we just agree that there are plenty of books on the list that genuinely don’t belong in schools and that if we have a problem with the legislatory system we should propose sensible ways of screening books rather than pretending every banned book is Ray Bradbury and acting like every time a book isn’t passed for inclusion in the curriculum it’s literally nazi 1984.


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    1 year ago

    I hate kneejerk bullshit, so this teacher is going to teach some real shit books because the author included enough hate speech and perversion that it’s clearly not suitable for school age kids?

    You think the media teacher has the same attitude ‘they said I couldn’t show you this in class but screw them! get ready for hard core porn…’

    There have been good books banned but also we need to be reasonable and live in reality, not all books are suitable for children. The conversation should be about criteria for banning books in school or the process, etc. it’s incredibly dumb just saying ‘i don’t care if it’s three hundred pages of glorified rape and racism if you try to stop me teaching it to children you’re the baddie’

    And yes I know ‘but we actually mean something different to the meme we’re upvoting…’ it’s ok upvote this post because I do too, right, that’s how it works?