Facebook alternative from 2010. Pre-dates diaspora* by a few months.

Remember diaspora*? In summer 2010, four young fellows asked for $12,000 of crowdfunding so they could spend the summer developing a free, open-source, decentralised Facebook alternative. Mind you, summer 2010 was when Cambridge Analytica was still a hot topic. So they got $320,000, and the mainstream media wrote about a “Facebook killer” in development.

They started in May, 2010. It was in late autumn when they delivered a first, very early alpha release that was very incomplete and only ran on Mac servers. It took years until even a first beta release, not to mention replacing the whole dev team.

Friendica (originally Mistpark) was developed by one man. In four months, from March to July, 2010. With zero budget. And Mistpark, as it was when it was first released in July, 2010, could have easily mopped the floor with today’s diaspora*, feature-wise, without even breaking a sweat.

Friendica does not try to be a Facebook clone. It tries to be “like Facebook, but way better”. With lots of unnecessary cruft not taken over, but with all-new features integrated. For example, Friendica can be used as a full-blown blog with all text formatting shebang you could possibly imagine a blog to have, all the way to an unlimited number of images that can be embedded within the text, like, with text above the image and more text below the image.

By the way, Friendica comes with a built-in file storage complete with a file manager where you can upload images or whatever. Unlike on Mastodon and Lemmy, your images don’t sink into some data nirvana.

Unlike all the microblogging stuff in the Fediverse, Friendica does not have any arbitrary character limit.

Remember Google+? It was a full-on diaspora* rip-off. Everyone things Google+ had invented circles. Google+ had actually stolen diaspora*'s aspects. But Friendica had them first, even before diaspora*, and calls them lists.

Also, Friendica has been supporting moderated discussion groups at various levels of privacy from the get-go.

But Friendica’s biggest killer feature is and has always been that it can connect to a whole lot of stuff. It can connect to the entire ActivityPub-using Fediverse, it can connect to diaspora*, it can connect to anything that uses OStatus, it can cross-post to WordPress and compatible blogs, it can subscribe to RSS and Atom feeds while generating its own Atom feeds, it can “federate” via e-mail, its built-in chat is XMPP-compatible. You can also integrate a Bluesky account, you can integrate a Tumblr account, you can integrate an 𝕏 account (but the node admin still has to shell out a couple million dollars for a full API key to be able to make full use of it), and for a few months around 2012, you could even integrate a Facebook account into Friendica until Facebook made extracting content to third parties illegal.

The idea was that your friends are all over the place, you’re on Friendica, and you can stay in touch with all your friends without having to use all the stuff that your friends use. You can stay in touch with them on Friendica even though they’re all over the place.

misskey.io is a Japanese instance under Japanese law. With pretty lax rules, and only under Japanese law. Which means that just about everything in the West blocks misskey.io, and I think misskey.io doesn’t let Westerners join.

Why?

Because lolicon is allowed on misskey.io.

Thing is, lolicon may or may not count as CSAM by Western standards. Western lawmakers haven’t decided about it yet, hence “may or may not”. But “may or may not” may mean “yes, it is”.

And so, to be safe, Western instances block the hell out of misskey.io to keep what may or may not be CSAM from coming in. Remember that Mastodon caches any and all media. One lolicon post being washed up on Mastodon.social may be enough for Gargron to end up behind bars for “having child pr0n on his Web server”.

In Japan, on the other hand, lawmakers have decided. Lolicon is not CSAM, and it’s legal.

Thus, misskey.io, being hosted in Japan under Japanese law and only Japanese law, allows lolicon all over the place.

If you want some search that covers as much of the Fediverse as possible, you’ll have to make it centralised in some way.

If you want some search that actually always covers all of the Fediverse all the way to instances that have only just been launched for the first time, you’ll have to make it fully centralised and hard-code that search into all Fediverse server apps. That way, when you first start your new private instance of whatever, it can immediately connect itself to that search engine and push any and all content on your instance to that search engine.

I don’t know how well you know the Fediverse outside Lemmy. But at least on Mastodon, but probably not only there, many of those who have been around for long enough would rebel against centralised search because they don’t want the Fediverse to rely on anything centralised.

Also, especially on Mastodon, you have those who strongly opposed the introduction of full-text search on Mastodon itself on the ground of full-text search being used in the Birdcage to find and then harass BIPoC and members of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community, many of whom have escaped to Mastodon because it did not have full-text search! There may actually still be Mastodon instances that run Mastodon 3.x in order to avoid the full-text search that was introduced with Mastodon 4.0.

Thus, covering exactly 100% of the Fediverse (the public Fediverse at least) would even be impossible with a centralised search engine. That is, unless that search engine managed to circumvent instance-wide blocks (you can be sure that places such as tech.lgbt or transfem.social would block the hell out of such a search engine) and ignore any and all kinds of search opt-outs.

(streams) and Forte have very nice user discovery: On your stream page which is always the landing page when you open your channel, there’s an area to the left which suggests two new contacts to you. The same thing is on your contacts page. Below the two suggestions, there is a button to a suggestions page which is basically a special, filtered version of the directory. There you get even more contact suggestions. The two suggestions are randomly picked from the two on your suggestions page.

If you fill out your profile, especially the keyword field, the suggestions will improve. Also, the suggestions may include not only users, but also whatever qualifies as a group, because the directory certainly does.

It’s basically like Facebook, but more convenient than Facebook has ever been AFAIR. Friendica has had this kind of suggestions since its inception in 2010, and (streams) is an indirect fork, so-to-speak. I don’t know if Friendica has a suggestion field up front nowadays, though; I know that Hubzilla doesn’t have one unless you add it using the PDL editor (and, please, which newbies dives into Hubzilla that deeply), and (streams) and Forte do have one.

No. You can’t crosspost to two or more Lemmy communities at once. AFAICS, that’s fully deliberate and intentional by design to keep people from spamming Lemmy with mass-crossposts.

What it fixes is trouble with crossposting to Lemmy, Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams) and Guppe groups. You can’t mention these in any order you like. You always have to begin with one Lemmy community. If a Lemmy community is not mentioned first, it will be ignored, no matter what is mentioned first.

Also, apparently, mentioning Guppe groups before a Friendica group, a Hubzilla forum or a (streams) group doesn’t work either.

Musk-boi could “buy” Mastodon, Spez could buy Lemmy.world and ml, and Zucker-bot could “buy” Pixelfed tomorrow, but that wouldn’t stop anyone from forking those platforms and leaving the main instances.

Or going someplace in the Fediverse that’s neither Mastodon nor Lemmy nor Pixelfed.

First, Bluesky’s nomadic identity isn’t worth shit if nobody knows that there’s more than one instance.

Next, it has yet to be proven to work because nobody has daily-driven it yet.

Finally, if you want nomadic identity that’s actually proven to work, don’t join Bluesky. Join Hubzilla. Nomadic identity, established in 2012, some four years before Mastodon, daily-driven by probably hundreds or thousands of people since then.

I’m not even kidding. The Fediverse had nomadic identity four years before it had Mastodon.

Always post in this format:

Thread title
(Blank line)
@Lemmy_community @Friendica_group/Hubzilla_forum/(streams)_group @Guppe_group (optionally more Guppe groups)
(Blank line)
Post body

Here’s some stuff that I’d meme about:

• Mastodon users thinking the Fediverse is only Mastodon
• Lemmy users thinking the Threadiverse is only Lemmy
• Mastodon users thinking the Fediverse started with Mastodon
• Mastodon being ridiculously underpowered in comparison to just about everything else, particularly Hubzilla and (streams)
• Mastodon users wishing Mastodon (or, better yet, “the Fediverse”) had certain features which are readily available just about everywhere outside of Mastodon
• Mobile apps built against only Mastodon
• Fediverse tools built against only Mastodon
• Pleroma being lightweight
• Mastodon’s culture which Mastodon users are trying to force upon the rest of the Fediverse
• Forkey antics such as “Speak as cat”
• Forkeys in general
• Forkeys inspired by Blåhaj vs Mastodon’s mastodon plushie
• Mastodon users still uploading videos to YouTube and not to PeerTube
• Hubzilla’s UI
• Sharkey’s infamously bad Mastodon API implementation
• Friendica federating with everything, especially juxtaposed with some Mastodon users not wanting to federate with anything that isn’t vanilla Mastodon
• Hubzilla’s ability to host Web pages
• Nomadic identity
• Bluesky’s AT protocol seeming like a cheap knock-off of the Zot and Nomad protocols in parts
• Self-proclaimed Fediverse experts who actually barely know anything about Mastodon and don’t know anything about the rest of the Fediverse
• Character limits
• Threads perhaps wanting to EEE the Fediverse vs Mastodon actively trying to EEE the Fediverse right now
• Mastodon’s poster-side content warnings set in stone in what they want to be the Fediverse culture vs Friendica’s, Hubzilla’s, (streams)’ and Forte’s automated, reader-side content warnings which have been around for longer
• Generally, the Fediverse being older than Mastodon
• Lemmy only barely federating with everything else
• /kbin essentially being dead
• Permissions on Hubzilla and (streams)
• “Conversations” on Mastodon vs conversations on Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams)
• Certain points in the Fediverse history

Granted, I guess almost all of this will fly even over most c/Fediverse users’ heads due to how detached Lemmy is from the rest of the Fediverse. But I don’t really expect that many more Mastodon users to understand it, and those who do may be offended. Oh well.