Oh of course! I meant to say they aren’t worth it to me, folks’ uses and wants for a smartwatch vary so widely. I totally agree that the pebbles have great aesthetics, and the issues about data collection for pretty much everything else on the market. I do wish the new pebbles had a heart rate monitor, though.
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The bangle and the pebble both have the e-paper display, but as far as I know they’re the only ones. They’re a huge draw for me, I love not having a bright screen that kills the battery.
I got introduced to smartwatches with the original pebble time, and when Rebble stopped working on my phone I switched to a Bangle.js 2. I still have some nostalgia for pebbles, but the bangle is pretty much just better for everything except aesthetics, and is less than half the cost. The new pebbles just aren’t worth it, unfortunately.
tl;dr (understandable, to be honest): on a technical level, modern GNOME prioritizes polish at the expense of flexibility, and COSMIC is focused on customizability. Bad communication aside, they have fundamentally different goals and audiences.
Acknowledging that this is a 4-year-old article, I think it’s important to read this as a very one-sided perspective. However, I am certainly not defending System76, as it does seem like some pretty poor behavior if the article is to be believed.
I’m going to look past the issues over communication and behavior, as others have already addressed that in this thread. Other than that, it seems that the main issue is arguing over the role of GNOME in the software ecosystem. How I see this is that:
- System76 is arguing for backwards compatibility and and more customizability.
- GNOME is arguing for “bulletproof” theming of apps by restricting user choice and modularity.
Honestly, I think this is pretty reflective of how the current state of the respective DEs.
GNOME is the cleanest, most polished Linux desktop environment, if you use it exactly as the designers of GNOME envision. If you want any options outside the extremely limited set GNOME provides by default, you need to rely on extensions, which are less stable and less polished, and may or may not be updated to new DE versions.
COSMIC is a clean-sheet implementation designed around modularity. It’s really the main thing they talk about. It has the advantage of being Wayland-only, and (supposedly) pretty much every element of the DE is modular, and there is a pretty substantial amount of customization available even in the fairly barebones 1.0 implementation.
In terms of COSMIC “just being GNOME with extra color options”, I disagree. I really like the UI design concept of GNOME, and ten versions ago I used it all the time. However, over the last few versions it’s become very locked-down into only supporting one narrow way of using the desktop, and I need features outside that (e.g. system tray, options for window tiling, etc.). Even with ten extensions modifying the behavior – which causes stability issues when I get a new GNOME version – I still find things which bother me and are only fixable with manual dconf editing, which means I just can’t daily-drive GNOME.
I think that’s who COSMIC is really for: someone who wants less windows-y, more intentional UI design than KDE, but with good customizability. It sucks if the creators of a pretty neat new DE were not effective participants in their previous DE, so I really hope they don’t make the same mistake with COSMIC, and manage it properly as an open source project.
More like Marie and Pierre Cutie, amirite?
FYI, OpenSuse maintains .rpm builds of the signal app in their repos, specifically targeted at OpenSuse Leap and Fedora. They work great for me.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•System76 Launches Pop!_OS 24.04 LTS With COSMIC Desktop
5·1 month agoKrohnkite is incredibly janky, I tried it recently and it made all the window animations lag. Also every third boot or so it would fully stop kwin from starting, and lead to a black screen on login.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•Recommendations for after installing Linux (Mint) coming from Windows for best practices for a casual user ?
3·2 months agoTheres no equivalent to Windows Defender on Linux, because it’s like 14 tools in one, and Linux by nature is a lot more modular. If you want something whcch scans files for malware, the tool of choice would be ClamAV. By default it only scans files which you manually tell it to, but you can set it up to automatically scan any file when it’s downloaded. It’s a lot less sophisticated than Defender, but there’s also just not as much malware for Linux (yet), and if you stick to installing software through the package manager and never giving other files execution permission, you should be fine.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•Recommendations for after installing Linux (Mint) coming from Windows for best practices for a casual user ?
1·2 months agoI would also add that the more you modify the system (PPAs, packages not installed via the package manager, nonstandard partition layouts) decreases the stability of your system and makes it harder to get back to your current system state if something goes wrong. I like to think about it like balancing a tower of blocks as a kid. Mint is the first block, and is very stable, but each additional block makes the system less and less stable. Mint itself is really stable, but if you do weird stuff the Mint devs can’t do anything about it, which puts you in a bad position until you really know what you’re doing.
The Snap store is intentionally left out by Mint, because they don’t like how Ubuntu manages it. This means that even though the Ubuntu version Mint is based on supports Snap, there’s no guarantee that snaps will work with the same stability which .deb/apt and flatpak packages will, because it hasn’t been tested in Mint. I would advise against using it.
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Gaming@beehaw.org•The artist whose designs were used in Bungie’s Marathon without permission says the dispute ‘has been resolved to my satisfaction’ [VGC]
7·2 months agoI think what sem is talking about is that Bungie first made “Marathon” in 1994. The new game is a pretty much unrelated game, reusing the name.
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Open Source@lemmy.ml•Pebble Watch Software Is Now 100% Open Source
1·2 months agoYes it’s placed flat, I’m not sure if it’s supposed to turn off but it certainly doesn’t.
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Open Source@lemmy.ml•Pebble Watch Software Is Now 100% Open Source
2·2 months agoI do love my bangle.js 2. i was feeling some nostalgia for my Pebble Time 2, so I pulled it out to try it with the new app, but then I remembered that I hadn’t updated anything on my Bangle in ages (dont generally have chrome enabled ony phone) and the updates made everything so much smoother. No reason to switch back to pebble, especially in its current state.
My only complaint is that there is no way for the watch to tell if it’s on your wrist, and the heart rate monitor and screen can’t be woken up separately. So it can be annoying at night, when unless it’s fully shut off the HRM and screen will light up the room every 10min.
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Technology@beehaw.org•Polish Ministry of Digital Affairs confirms that legislative work on mandating RSS channels' maintenance on government bodies is underway
5·2 months agoAbsolutely! I’m certainly not going to insist that things should only be published on RSS feeds! Anything is better than the authoritative source for evacuation warnings being a Twitter account. Every platform has its place, I’m just a big fan of always starting with an RSS feed for announcements as the “root source”, then pushing changes to the feed to all other platforms.
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Technology@beehaw.org•Polish Ministry of Digital Affairs confirms that legislative work on mandating RSS channels' maintenance on government bodies is underway
7·2 months agoNot really. RSS feeds are better for announcements in my opinion, as there’s no account associated, and the ways of viewing them are even more flexible and simple than the Fedi infrastructure.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•Orion Browser for Linux (Webkit-based) Alpha available by end of year "if all goes well"
2·2 months agoIf it’s WebKit-based, it is still using one of those four engines owned by large companies…the engine isn’t the selling point. As I read it, Orion is to Safari as Brave is to Chrome.
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Open Source@lemmy.ml•PSA syncthing-fork has changed owners
1·2 months agoSame for me…wierd.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•What are the options if my country makes VPN's illegal?
2·2 months ago+1 ro this. The obfuscation tunnels traffic through the QUIC protocol used by https/3. Basically, it’s almost impossible to block QUIC without sabotaging the web. This is opposed to traditional VPN connections, which send encrypted (usually AES) packets over UDP, which is much easier to tell is a VPN.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•Valve's new Steam Machine and Steam Frame and implications for Linux
14·2 months agoI know what you asked about is the Machine and Frame, but I’m super excited about the controller. I love my old steam controller I got on fire sale, but its an extremely flawed device. If they can polish that to the standard of the Deck, I’m so in, especially since you know it’ll work well on Linux with no firmware BS.
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Science Memes@mander.xyz•We gotta be more encouragingEnglish
0·3 months agoKnowing how to write a good study is a matter of experience more than intelligence.


I see, the time does but the round doesn’t. I saw the round and assumed they’d be the same, oops!