• MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works
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    “Insurrectionists carrying foreign flags are attacking immigration enforcement officers, while one half of America’s political leadership has decided that border enforcement is evil,” Vice President JD Vance said in a post on X Saturday night.

    Big yikes. “Insurrectionists”? Bloody hell.

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      How is a peaceful protest in LA an “Insurrection,” while violently attacking cops and raiding the Capitol to stop the certification of the vote, is not?

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        Conservatism was the original reactionary movement, and it essentially sought to restore the nobility within democracy, complete with the different rules applying to said ingroup. Modern conservatism only differing in the sense that its supporters really want to become part of said ingroup.

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          conservatism/liberterinism,dont realize the ingroups, are the oligarchs only.

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      The authorities wouldn’t send the National Guard if they thought they could just ignore you. So i’d say this is a success.

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        Trump doesn’t need to understand this for it to be true, but the gov right now depends a lot on opporating in the dark to get away with massively illegal and unethical actions that would harm public opinions and reactions. By forcing them to opporate in public with the press focused on the protests makes them face accountability.

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    AMERICA! IS FUCKED! NEVER COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE FUCKING DAY YEAH!

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    Holy fuck. Some finally have the balls to stand up and fight and a bunch of you are all…this is wrong. Escalation and violence is not ok…or…but they have so many big guns.

    Your country is run by a fucking dictator. Your own people are being forcefully removed from their homes and families and put in concentration camps.

    Unbelievable.

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      I have leveled some pretty strong words at Americans in the past- but it wasn’t until this year that they really revealed themselves as a nation of utter cowards.

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      Threaten the 4th largest economy in the world with leverage you don’t really have. Encourage escalation tactics for illegal detainment of peoples under the jurisdiction and protection of the Constitution. Ignore the Constitution and normalize the absurd use of the term deportation. Cry about it on social media and then throw a fit and send troops to peaceful protests ( as per LAPD ).

      Frail ideology.

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    Anyone remember what this was from?

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

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        Well then everyone the conservatives don’t like need to start arming up before they realize the gun control they always wanted exists, but only to keep “mental ill” people from buying them and the only things considered illnesses are things conservatives don’t like.

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          Breaking through the mental wall for anti-2A liberals unfortunately only happens once it’s too late to get effective training, if it happens at all…

          A gun/gear group I know of recently tried to donate money to a charity for queer folks in the the south. The charity denied the donation because “they don’t take money from anyone who uses firearms for work” (paraphrased).

          Let’s take a moment to digest that.

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            I recently got a small group of gay/trans/ally/hiking friends to a range and I think it’s going to be a more regular thing. I have a couple and another person had several, and the range does rentals. One of us (who’d never even fired a gun) has a small piece of property and they ended up trying/purchasing a little 10/22 to take out to their property to start trying to get some small game. I’m deep in the a red state though so convincing more on-the-fence/marginalized people to protect themselves isn’t hard given the right conversation.

            I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

            The shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again, they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people. One of the primary ghouls/traitors responsible for the attempted overthrow of our government on J6 was Roger Stone, the same traitorous ratfucker who began his career working for Nixon and has a fucking Nixon tattoo on his back. It’s really impossible to overstate how bad these people are and they’re winning.

            The coup was successful, they’re in power and if they don’t want to give it up they won’t.

            Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing.

            https://www.dsausa.org/
            https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/
            https://socialistra.org/
            https://generalstrikeus.com/
            https://afsc.org/news/how-create-mutual-aid-network
            https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/raids/
            https://mutualaidhub.org/

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      Yeah, But it was never intended to stop things from happening from the inside. Whoever ends up on the opposite side of the military in the end is going to lose.

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        It depends on how many people end up on the opposite side. Tens, hundreds, for sure. Thousands, likely. Tens of thousands, not so certain. Hundreds of thousands, I don’t know. If the army starts shooting to kill any significant numbers of Americans, things are going to get very interesting.

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    “…The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this. Try.*

    -Karis Nemik, Andor

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      When I was seven, I learned a lesson from Cube and Eazy-E What was it again? Oh yeah, fuck the police

      I was actually a teenager but the sentiment…

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      +1…The original boombox used tape cassettes and most with two for playing and recording. Don’t forget your roller skates too.

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      Could i interest you in a very loud WOOP WOOP. That’s the sound of the police. Or possibly a WOOP WOOP. That’s the sound of the beast.

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    If this turns into an American Tiananmen Square, you’re going to end up knocking a star off that flag.

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      It depends on whether we’re allowed to talk about it in 5 years.

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        The rest of the world is watching and we will be talking about it even if the “land of the free” isn’t allowed to.

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          Absolutely you are, We will too.

          The key difference between tiananmen square and what’s going on right now will be whether US citizens are prohibited from talking about it in 5 years.

          If you are citizens aren’t prohibited then it wasn’t a tiananmen square.

          Right now, 50/50 maybe 60/40

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      Most of the people on this site that cheer this on also happen to be the ones who think that the Tiananmen Square massacre didn’t happen, and if it did then it was a good thing.

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    So glad I never joined the National Guard cause I would definitly refuse to go, and if forced, join the side of of the ones fighting ICE.

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    Well, we always knew #RATM were right, but no one expected yet another playbook decades after this album was released in 1999. It all feels that unreal… 😔

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      “I liked them before they got all political” – Some Republican dumbass.

      I can only assume they thought Bulls on Parade was about a family holiday to the beach.

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    Just saw an ICE truck carrying a bunch of jackboots through Echo Park. Don’t know where they’re ultimately heading to though.

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      How do you know it’s an ICE truck? What does it look like? I’ve seen white ones in videos, but surely they don’t all look the same.

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        You could tell because it had fanciful decorations of ice cream cones and candy on the sides and it had a big horn loudspeaker playing “Turkey in the Straw”. You see them all the time just driving slowly up and down the neighborhood streets.

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        It was a big black unmarked truck full of black armor wearing soldier types hanging off the sides. I’m no expert on cop sightings but I’m pretty sure even they have their emblem on the sides of their heavy duty vehicles. Besides, isn’t it their MO nowadays to go everywhere wearing balaclavas without visible insignias or name tags?