• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Of course it is. Unless they switched to hall effect sticks, which they already said they weren’t doing. For whatever reason, they still want to save the pennies instead of using the better component even after the previous issues and lawsuits. Why do companies insist on shooting themselves in the foot constantly?

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        7 months ago

        They were literally forced to fix/replace broken joycons for free because of the drift issue. In case you weren’t aware. I sent two sets away to be fixed, all expenses paid.

        That costs them lots of money.

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          7 months ago

          Probably made more from every schmuck who didn’t know they would be replaced for free and bought extra.

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      7 months ago

      While Nintendo is absolutely to blame for not fixing the situation, I’ve heard they were not going for hall effect sticks because of the interference with the joycons magnets.

      Full disclosure, I have no Switch, Retrodeck Enthusiast here 😁

      • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        So they decided that magnetic joycons versus a new rail design were worth another set of drift lawsuits.

        Because any potential new drift lawsuit is going to cite the old one as clear proof that Nintendo knew what would happen, had the opportunity to change the design so it didn’t, and decided to do it again anyway.

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          7 months ago

          Nintendo choosing the option that is actively worse for everyone including themselves goes well with my theory that Nintendo is actually just evil and making decisions based on spite and disdain for their customers and fans.

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        7 months ago

        I design things that use hall effect sensors… The magnets in the joycons would not have interfered. Those magnets are:

        1. Too far away from the sticks to matter.
        2. Perpendicular/orthogonal to the magnets that would be in the sticks.

        Besides, you can cram hall effect stuff super tight just by inserting a tiny piece of magnetic shielding between components. Loads of products do this (mostly to prevent outside magnets from interfering but it’s the same concept). What is this magic magnetic shielding technology? EMI tape.

        There’s a zillion types and they’re all cheap and very widely used in manufacturing. I guarantee your phone, laptop, and many other electronics you own have some sort of EMI tape inside of them.

        Just about every assembly line that exists for mass produced electronics has at least one machine that spits out tape a bit like a CNC machine (or they pay the cheapest worker possible to place it).

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    7 months ago

    Seems like a really dumb move after how much the previous lawsuit must have cost them.

    I’m sure they did some kind of cost/benefit analysis, but it’s still fucking dumb imo.

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    7 months ago

    For what it’s worth, we’ve had non-Hall Effect sticks for generations, and they’ve mostly been fine on everything else but JoyCons. We won’t know whether these actually are as fragile as original JoyCons were until we start hearing reports of broken sticks.

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      7 months ago

      Pressing down too hard breaks the pushbutton functionality. It has nothing to do with stick drift.

      But since we’re talking about what causes things… You know what actually causes potentiometer-based sticks to fail fast? Sweat. That’s right!

      The NaCL in your sweat—even the tiniest microscopic amounts—is enough to degrade the coating and the brushes on potentiometers. The more your hands sweat, the faster your sticks will degrade.

      Got sweaty palms? Best to use hall effect sticks or save up to buy new ones on the regular! 😁

      Also: If you allow your controllers to get really cold and regularly (and rapidly) warm them up with your hands while playing that can have a negative impact too.

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        7 months ago

        It starts to separate the bottom half of the stick housing when you push on them hard all the time and causes it to drift. That’s why shimming them temporarily works.