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        10 days ago

        Yes breaking the law is a “crime” but to be a criminal you need to have the verdict saying you committed it. Innocent until proven and all. A “not guilty” or null result means not a criminal.

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          9 days ago

          Guilty’s meaning depends on whose the listener

          That you present the set of possible states of guilty poorly aside, are assuming everyone shares your POV.

          I can present your bullshit more clearly. So lets do that

          For someone to be labeled a criminal they must have been convicted in a court of law by their peers and all avenues of appeals have been exhausted. This is the only situation where the word criminal can be used by anyone besides paid liers and illusionists.

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            9 days ago

            No it’s a poor journalistic standard to cast guilt before trial. If some random person was saying it who cares. This is a large public facing news entity though.

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              8 days ago

              They demonize perps every single day. To the point it’s comical. Finding an exception is rare.

              Got to the point, where i refuse to believe anything the media or the State says. Anything. If they said the sky is blue i’d ask for the unittests (wouldn’t believe them)

              They lost the narrative forever. Which is another way of saying they aren’t ruling by the Will of the people. Incapable of presenting themselves in a believable manner.

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        9 days ago

        Not a crime against society, so possibly not a crime.

        The word, crime, is subjective. Much like the word, value.

        Really what is wanted is play court and feel special.

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        5 days ago

        Lest we forget, “He needed killin’” was a successful defense against a murder charge in Texas, once upon a time.

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      10 days ago

      I mean i agree ethically and morally. I was just commenting on NYT not understanding how laws work.

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      9 days ago

      Depends on how it’s eradicated.

      If the actual assassin, not the patsy, really wanted to make sure. He might be capable of making really really sure.

      Dropping a tank on it or destroying a city block might not be beyond his pay grade.

      A BB gun is not making sure. Just a bit cleaner and quieter.