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can’t use the Summit app for some reason
also, i may need a VPN; I can’t access the only other book website like Z Library or Anna’s Archive that I know of (oceanstopdfs, I think)
Basically, I need a VPN, but I can’t really afford one at the moment
i got an onion video in my feed about 2026 usa election. they were taking about abdul el-sayed, but i am out of the loop, so i thought it was a photoshopped zelenskyy, and was idly wondering what was happening now. i thought it had something mildly to do with a color revolution for some reason (i thought of regime changes in west asia maybe? that’s why it was a photoshopped zelenskyy) and a parody of it (which didn’t gel otherwise with the title, but i just felt like i was maybe oblivious). turns out el-sayed’s real, actually, and a senator-elect as of right now.
unrelated, but what the hell really is the electoral college? wouldn’t they remove such a glaring embarrassment that’s recognized even by those still enamored by ‘liberal democracy’ within capitalism?
My Summit app still has a weird format :/
Here are the results of the American midterm elections:
The warlord clan known was the Republicans have been replaced by the warlord clan known as the Democrats
the democrats don’t even pretend they want to please or serve the people anymore. the imagined monopoly capitalism has on their future means they can set any price, and the people think they only have two choices: killing everyone else in the world with the .3% chance THIS time the dems will enshrine roe v. wade, and killing everyone else in the world while the president uses chatGPT to make really funny images of him actively shitting on the people
The youtube algorithm was trying to push a liberal segment on me. One of those last week tonight things with John Oliver, something about the republican party and “worrying trends” that it’s becoming more nazi-like / supporting of nazism.
I was like, I’ll try it for research to see what the liberals are saying. Couldn’t get through it. For starters, as to be expected from liberals, the rhetoric is incredibly weak. John Oliver saying stuff like “it’s worrying” and “it seems like” while pulling out some examples at random of republicans doing or saying nazi-like stuff or being supportive of them. Then he pulls out this clip of Lindsay Graham saying words to the effect that he’s not in support of the nazi stuff coming out of the republican party, the same Lindsay Graham who supported NATO-Ukraine, a hub for neo-nazis and barbaric mercenaries (I know, bit redundant labeling there). But of course he doesn’t include that part at all, he gives credit to Lindsay Graham. Then he does the classic liberal maneuver of showing part of a clip of a Nick Fuentes / Tucker Carlson interview (giving airtime to the worst people to “debate them in the marketplace of ideas”), but to make matters worse, he doesn’t even do a good job of dissecting what is said in the interview. Then, and this is the part where I couldn’t bear any more, he throws in this thing about how Fuentes supposedly claimed to like Stalin in the interview and then does a liberal anti-communist jab about Stalin.
Like good god man, the thesis of your segment is that nazism is getting worse in the republican party and you aren’t even politically literate enough to recognize Stalin as a historical opponent of nazis; or worse, you do know and are pretending not to know in order to muddy the waters.
I don’t know how I ever watched this trash TV in the past. Liberals are maliciously bad at countering fascism.
Liberals are maliciously bad at countering fascism.
Liberals don’t exist. There are crypto-fascists and there are politically/historically illiterate people who live in a fairy tale world divorced from material reality. Oliver is a crypto-fascist as is every other liberal pundit of note.
Any cool accounts to follow on mastodon.social?
Is it just me or does Soviet History feel a lot more opaque and harder to learn about, and have a lot more just straight up propaganda, than even PRC history?
In what way?
Serbia has 100% been color revolutioned.
Looks like it. The main reason why a lot of people were confused or in denial about it at first is because Vucic’s government was already semi-comprador, very much in bed with the West in a lot of ways and not remotely anti-imperialist. It does not appear to make sense that a mostly compliant right-wing neoliberal would need to be color revolutioned.
So why was it necessary to do this? Because the EU can never accept even the smallest amount of deviation or hedging. We saw this in Hungary. We saw it in Romania. Brussels needs one hundred percent control and anything less is unacceptable. They are desperate to “complete the European project”. They can feel the clock ticking on the EU and they think that if they can just keep expanding it until they have absorbed every single country in Europe, centralize all power to Brussels and turn the EU into a Federation this will somehow save the project from collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions.
Some people were also confused because they think that a color revolution means that the US and its regime change machinery have to be in the driver seat behind the color revolution, but they miss the fact that the EU, and especially the Germans, can act as imperialists in their own right, often taking the lead on regime change operations within Europe.
People forget that Yanukovich was also a semi-comprador, and he was still couped. So Vučić was also always gonna be a target for the west.
I hope I can figure out why the Summit app is doing this
My parents were watching the news a bit ago, and there was a segment on Ukraine.
Supposedly Russia bombed a school-turned warehouse used by a humanitarian organisation.
Source? What source?
If anyone is able to find an actual source on this, let me know. Especially on the Humanitarian organisation front.
I can’t use Anna’s archive
I can’t use Z Library
How do I get my books…
prole wiki is back up. There’s a great selection there
Non-communist material too?
Trying to find a book on OCD.
Don’t think they have any like that.
I am trying to get a book called “Don’t Believe Everything You Think”
But Z Library and Anna’s Archive aren’t working like usual.`
Summit app is so wonky right now…
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i’m feeling better. my dad’s just awful with words. like beyond awful but i get what he meant. it’s absolutely true, but doesn’t mean it’s not the worst thing to hear after a day filled with “I’m gonna do this” and then sitting on my ASS doing nothing /humorous
I just had an argument on Instagram with a USian who called herself a socialist, but said people need to vote for the democrats to stop Trump. The Statesian left is fucked
“All political power comes from VOTING🥰” - Mao Zedong “VOTERS of the world unite” - Carlos Marcus
You were not talking to a socialist. nazis called themselves socialists too. she is not “the left” of the usa.
The statesian left is tiny because of decades of highly successful repression and psychological operations.
Stop blaming comrades for the actions of liberals.
I know she wasn’t a socialist. I only said she called herself that
Did voting for Democrats in 2008 and 2012 stop Trump from being elected in 2016? Did voting for Democrats in 2020 stop Trump from being elected in 2024? Did voting for Democrats stop the wars and the genocides, or stop the decline in the standard of living of working class Americans? How exactly does voting for a bourgeois party that gets paid to protect the interest of corporations advance socialism? Just curious, asking for a friend.
that’s all of them i’m afraid
ETA: i missed the tonetag… i don’t blame people for downvoting. while i do think it’s funny whenever self identified ‘socialists’ say this, i’m not someone that actually believes all statesians are stupid and have NO capacity whatsoever to be meaningfully progressive or an ultraleft of that sort… sorry :( just meant to be humorous
has anyone seen pantheon TV show? seems to me so much lib coded
The only content I’ve seen from this show was a character that looked like VSauce Michael fighting someone.
Seems like it has very good animation.








