• starik@lemmy.today
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      It’s ok to be casually racist against white people because it’s “punching up”. Which implies white people are superior. Which is racist against non-whites wait…

      • Cass@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        … that’s like saying billionaires are superior, because you punch up at them. It’s not about being better, it’s about privilege.

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          rich white men are privileged.

          poor whites, are not privileged.

          and there are way more poor white people than rich white people.

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            Poor whites are still white. Yes they’re still privilege

            Edit - at this point 4 downvotes. 4 white people need to pull theirs heads out their ass

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              cool, go trade places with a poor white boy in louisana and see how much ‘privilege’ that life brings.

              I’m sure you will love the lack of education, economic opportunity, and the backwards culture you’re brought up in that you can’t escape.

              oh, you don’t want ot make that trade? gee, maybe because you’re more privileged than they are…

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                And that poor WHITE boy is still going to have more privelage than a poor black one. Gee, maybe it’s like, some sort of spectrum and not quite so… black and white.

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                  right, because people’s skin color is inherently how much power and priveldge they have…

                  and not actual power and privilege. because you know, we can’t talk about that. we just attribute it to skin color. and that’s not extremely racist at all…

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                    right, because peoples skin color is inherently how much power and privilege they have…

                    Yes. Like, yeah bud. That’s how racism works. White people are going to have more privilege than black people.

                    That’s not to say that the poor white kid isn’t going to experience hardships but the poor black child is deffo gonna have it way worse.

                • Vespair@lemmy.zip
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                  I think we get into problems like this when we start trying to quantitate privilege like this.

                  They have different privilege.

                  Almost everyone benefits from some kind of privilege. Yes, some are more profound than others, but thinking of it in simple terms of quantity accomplishes nothing for anyone.

                  We benefit from learning to recognize and acknowledge the specific privileges from which we benefit, not from carrying guilt or burden over the concept of privilege itself.

                  Explaining to a poor white man that they have privilege just because they do teaches them nothing. Explaining to them that they dont have the privilege of wealth to shield them from certain circumstances, but do have the specific privilege of not having systemic racism as an additional hurdle to their already real existing problems allows them the space to feel seen and acknowledge while still having the distance to see the point.

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                  really. so a middle-class black kid has less privilege than a poor white kid?

                  or maybe privilege is about money and power? and skin color has very little to do with that.

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                Clutch them pearls.

                Anyone reading this. Make friends with black immigrants, specifically black women and then let’s talk about privilege.

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                    Clutch dem pearls harder.

                    Are you really going to tell everyone here a black poor person is equal to a white one?

                    Really? That’s the hill you’re going to die on?

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      To my understanding white isn’t really a race.

      We kind of just like… pick and choose who ever we want to consider white.

      I suspect if I went around saying Russians are white people like Americans like South Africans, and like French people. Many people would give me the: 🤨

      Finally. These are some of my favorite kind of white girls.

      I prefer dark hair but I am a sucker for pale skin.