I can’t despise them as much as active supporters… apathy is for sure the lesser of two evils there.
But, yes… “if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”
I could say indifference IS better than malice or willful ignorance… but, this could easily be disregarded as desire to ignore the greater concern (which I think you’re driving at)
MLK’s expression of,
“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.” Comes to mind.
Sure, we’re getting philosophical… but I couldn’t refute that standing, without deploying willfull ignorance of my own.
I am, vehemently, clinging onto the notion that people in my country are ignorant and lazy, rather than fully malicious… I can stomach the former far easier.
clinging onto the notion that people in my country are ignorant and lazy, rather than fully malicious… I can stomach the former far easier.
Agreed. Unfortunately, the more I converse with conservatives in particular, but also people on this very platform that defend not voting in 2024, the more I’m starting to lean towards fully malicious. There are a lot of non-conservatives on this platform that appear to be accelerationists that want full collapse, which will only serve to end many, many innocent people’s lives.
Yeah, agreed… my outlook is pretty bleak for my country, and by that I mean its people.
Conservatives are truly a lost cause, in most situations. The exceptions being people too blinded by propaganda to see the harm they’re doing.
I don’t see a lot of people “defending” non-voting, but that may be more anecdotal.
Dude, not everyone is as plugged in as you are. Some people don’t watch the news at all. Some people just go to work, come home, and do their own thing. Not everyone is terminally online.
Despising people for living their lives differently than you is just childish.
If you live in a democracy it is YOUR DUTY to pay attention, inform youself, and vote intelligently to maintain that democracy that many, many people DIED to give you.
If you don’t, you’re a piece of trash.
This was a no brainer. A TRAITOR ran for office after attempting to violently end our democracy. Every piece of trash that didn’t show up to vote against that traitor is a piece of trash.
The United States is not and has never been a democracy for the poorest 90% of the population. It’s been scientifically studied, and the opinions of the bottom 90% have no bearing on the outcome of legislation that is actually passed. Democracy only exists for the wealthiest 10% of the US population.
Why are you calling people trash when 90% of them don’t live in a democracy at all?
I’m here, aren’t I? Of course I’m way more plugged in and consume far more news than the average person. I vote, all the time. I encourage people I know and meet IRL to vote. Of course the US would be a better place if everyone were a bit more engaged. With each other, the world around them, politics, and the news.
But I get pissed off when people don’t seem to grasp that not everyone thinks like they do and they never will. When people are disgusted that others act differently than they do… I hope you can see why I would have a problem with that.
And when I find someone so willing to completely disappear up their own asshole about CIVIC DUTY and a bunch of people deaf for centuries… Just shut the fuck up already. Nobody cares except for the people that already think exactly like you do.
But I get pissed off when people don’t seem to grasp that not everyone thinks like they do and they never will.
Lol.
Kiddo. We aren’t talking about having differing opinions about taxes or regulations or policy of any kind.
These are fucking dipshits that fail their CIVIC DUTY to vote in a democracy, particularly WHEN THAT DEMOCRACY IS BEING THREATENED.
Are you still gonna be treating these fucking clowns gently when your democracy is FUCKING GONE because they couldn’t be bothered to uphold their responsibility? Pick up a history book and find out how shitty that situation would be if it came to pass.
You seem to not understand the situation we are currently in or that not voting has nothing to do with “differing opinions”. I suggest you do whatever is necessary to get your head out of your own asshole. No one should be kind to non-voters EVER, but especially not now. And no one with a brain would be framing their FAILURE as a “differing opinion”.
Those who didn’t bother to vote against him tacitly endorsed him
They made a choice to allow him to become president, even if they didn’t vote for him
I despise them as much as his supporters
ESPECIALLY the second time around
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I can’t despise them as much as active supporters… apathy is for sure the lesser of two evils there. But, yes… “if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”
I’ll take your Rush quote and raise you another.
“Indifference is the strongest force in the universe. It makes everything it touches meaningless. Love and hate don’t stand a chance against it.”
That being said, I’m not sure apathy is the lesser of two evils.
I could say indifference IS better than malice or willful ignorance… but, this could easily be disregarded as desire to ignore the greater concern (which I think you’re driving at) MLK’s expression of, “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.” Comes to mind. Sure, we’re getting philosophical… but I couldn’t refute that standing, without deploying willfull ignorance of my own.
I am, vehemently, clinging onto the notion that people in my country are ignorant and lazy, rather than fully malicious… I can stomach the former far easier.
Agreed. Unfortunately, the more I converse with conservatives in particular, but also people on this very platform that defend not voting in 2024, the more I’m starting to lean towards fully malicious. There are a lot of non-conservatives on this platform that appear to be accelerationists that want full collapse, which will only serve to end many, many innocent people’s lives.
Imagine calling voting for genocide the lesser evil, lmfao.
You should be skinned alive.
Yeah, agreed… my outlook is pretty bleak for my country, and by that I mean its people. Conservatives are truly a lost cause, in most situations. The exceptions being people too blinded by propaganda to see the harm they’re doing. I don’t see a lot of people “defending” non-voting, but that may be more anecdotal.
Do all your morals come from rock bands? You fuck 13 year olds too?
Dude, not everyone is as plugged in as you are. Some people don’t watch the news at all. Some people just go to work, come home, and do their own thing. Not everyone is terminally online.
Despising people for living their lives differently than you is just childish.
You don’t have to be terminally online to inform yourself of your choices for a few minutes every for years.
This is your reminder that civil participation shouldn’t be considered a right, but a privilege.
I’d say neither, it should be a duty
Voting literally is a “civic duty” for those who want democracy.
I think it’s a privilege to take part in the duty that is civil participation/ engagement.
Fair
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If you live in a democracy it is YOUR DUTY to pay attention, inform youself, and vote intelligently to maintain that democracy that many, many people DIED to give you.
If you don’t, you’re a piece of trash.
This was a no brainer. A TRAITOR ran for office after attempting to violently end our democracy. Every piece of trash that didn’t show up to vote against that traitor is a piece of trash.
The United States is not and has never been a democracy for the poorest 90% of the population. It’s been scientifically studied, and the opinions of the bottom 90% have no bearing on the outcome of legislation that is actually passed. Democracy only exists for the wealthiest 10% of the US population.
Why are you calling people trash when 90% of them don’t live in a democracy at all?
Bullshit. Dead people have no bearing on how the living operate. The only duty people have is to fucking feed themselves and such.
Found the loser that doesn’t grasp how important democracy is or that people DIE for it so that others that come after them can benefit from it.
I’m here, aren’t I? Of course I’m way more plugged in and consume far more news than the average person. I vote, all the time. I encourage people I know and meet IRL to vote. Of course the US would be a better place if everyone were a bit more engaged. With each other, the world around them, politics, and the news.
But I get pissed off when people don’t seem to grasp that not everyone thinks like they do and they never will. When people are disgusted that others act differently than they do… I hope you can see why I would have a problem with that.
And when I find someone so willing to completely disappear up their own asshole about CIVIC DUTY and a bunch of people deaf for centuries… Just shut the fuck up already. Nobody cares except for the people that already think exactly like you do.
Lol.
Kiddo. We aren’t talking about having differing opinions about taxes or regulations or policy of any kind.
These are fucking dipshits that fail their CIVIC DUTY to vote in a democracy, particularly WHEN THAT DEMOCRACY IS BEING THREATENED.
Are you still gonna be treating these fucking clowns gently when your democracy is FUCKING GONE because they couldn’t be bothered to uphold their responsibility? Pick up a history book and find out how shitty that situation would be if it came to pass.
You seem to not understand the situation we are currently in or that not voting has nothing to do with “differing opinions”. I suggest you do whatever is necessary to get your head out of your own asshole. No one should be kind to non-voters EVER, but especially not now. And no one with a brain would be framing their FAILURE as a “differing opinion”.
You can all caps all you want, buddy, you’re still just talking to people that already think like you do.
I’m lucky enough to live in a civilised country
We have compulsory voting, which is absolutely fantastic
It prevents the kind of stupidity that is 'Murica