One attendee shouted: “Play some music!” Others in the crowd were loving it. Burnley kept going, telling the audience to wait for his new update to drop before downloading the mod.

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    Jeez, tough read. 😛

    Anyway, I love community! I do! And maybe it could be that it’s impossible to have any kind of AI, and community, on this Earth at the same time. Could be, in which case I’d choose community.

    But while mod communities are very cool, there is a kind of threshold to them. Maybe not gatekeeping specifically, but they are niche and technical. So, again, if I could choose between a community that makes some mod that everyone loves and supports and a cold AI mod, I’d pick the community. But I’d bet 999 out of 1000 players of a game has had some thought about how the game could be different, but isn’t setup to learn how to mod it. But I don’t think that means they don’t “deserve” a tweak, perhaps.

    Anyway, I do agree with you that the way AI is being developed right now is problematic, at least in terms of concentration of power. And so these things are maybe just philosophical for now given that the ethics of building the AIs probably outweighs the ethics of the freedom it provides a videogame player.

    Sorry to have upset you! 😘

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      If you think about it, with open weight LLMs… Concentration of power is reversed if anything.

      Used to be if you didn’t know how to program and you needed a super specific tool for your own use case, you better have tons of money. Need artwork for your startup on an already tight budget? Pay up.

      Things that were accessible to people with either skills or money, are now accessible to people with a few dollars to throw at GLM or Qwen or a beefy enough machine to run a good model at home. Still not free, but much cheaper than contacting someone.

      My Claude subscription ran out and I ran GLM 5.3 flash to do a review on my gigantic PR (massive refactoring to keep up with upstream changes, not adding a ton of vibe coded “features”) and it gave me a pretty good analysis of the weak spots. It costs 1/100 of Claude Fable or 1/50 of Claude Opus to run, API pricing to API pricing. More amazed with this than anything Qwen right now. Beat Deepseek V4 Flash which I was really fond of for a while due to its price to performance ratio.

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        Welllll, I wouldn’t go fully that far either. There’s two kinds of power here, power of some monster megacorp. Probably bad. But also a startup not wanting to pay an artist for their skill and taste… I’d say isn’t the same power dynamic. If anything this is actually the part of AI I’m most worried about.

        Because I think there is value in freeing people up to pursue their interests on the one hand, but on the other hand if there’s no collaboration between people at all, and everyone does their own thing and relies on the machine to fill in the rest… that I think is actually a major risk to humanity.

        As in, if the musician uses AI to make album art for their music, and the indie filmmaker uses AI to make music for their score, and the screenwriter uses AI to make a video from their script, and a videogame programmer uses AI to write their dialog, and on and on, we end up with a lot of people “freed up” from depending on others, but we also absolutely shred any sort of community or cooperation and the whole of human expression becomes a hub-and-spoke with the AI at the centre of all things rather than a web of collaboration. And I think that’s a risk of a different kind.

        But each step, each use, one by one, feels like “well why shouldn’t I… just this once” 😉

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          There’s also the problem that some of us do try to make a living through our art because we don’t want to be alienated into office or physical work.

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            For sure, for sure, but that’s a little beside the point I’m trying to make in this comment in particular. In theory a band that used AI to make album art is making money from their art, the music, technically more because they aren’t spending that money on someone else’s art, which is the graphic art or photography.

            And the filmmaker using AI for scoring might be making money from their art, the filmmaking, but doesn’t have to pay a composer or musicians.

            The problem is that each of them individually might think this is great, their own art just got easier and cheaper to make, but in doing so at large, the entire ecosystem blows apart 😅