Making this post to gauge how many people are on the same wavelength as me in this regard because I’m toying with the idea of making a community. It’s also just a conversation to be had, I think.
Is anyone else kinda disappointed in the mainstream fandoms of nerdy things and alternative / punk / metal music these days? Honestly the nerd scene always harboured incel types but it’s been quite depressing to see that the alternative scene (at least online, where people are more honest and less polite) has swung conservative. The alternative spaces on mainstream social media are largely people who think there’s been no good music since Metallica, or a game of punk or Joe Rogan fan, goth or Harry Potter fan. And sadly even here on Lemmy, it seems to be on the instance that half of Lemmy is defederated from for right wing shit. And honestly the old guard of artists has been pretty disappointing too. Either apathetic with nothing to say after decades of preaching punching nazis, or making the news for signing bombs or misunderstanding Bruce Springsteen or calling for Charlize Theron to be arrested.
As far as nerd shit goes, the discussion for comic book media and games are an absolute dumpster fire, now more than ever. One that has escalated ever since Gamergate or the Captain Marvel movie. I’m not going to pretend that Supergirl didn’t have any issues. But I’m also not going to pretend that it was bad enough to warrant the extreme reaction, or that I didn’t predict that reaction the moment it was announced based on the pattern, or that the majority of the ‘criticism’ I saw wasn’t basically just men complaining about not finding Millie Alcock personally attractive.
In short, the alternative scene is getting fucked by honorary boomers that would’ve been looking the devil in heavy metal records alongside the republicans and christians in the '80s. And the nerd scene is long overdue for a grrrl riot.
Alt people and nerds have always been kinda overlapped in circles that I’ve been in. And Lemmy is really too small to have a seperate community for every little thing. So I’m thinking of a Blåhaj friendly space for fans of nerdy shit and rebel to post a mix of: music they want others to hear / sci-fi or fantasy or romantacy books they’re reading / comic book related media discussion / gaming discussion without the COD enthusiasts. A safe space for: women, LGBTQIA+ people, non-conformists, metalheads that are more likely to say “we’re not gonna take it” than “don’t tread on me”, punks that prefer Joe Strummer to Johnny Rotten. And an unsafe space for: manosphere dick bags, terfs, conservatives, 'phobes, pearl clutchers, bootlickers, church people, nerds that are terrified of cooties.
Does this interest anyone? I’ve even thought of a cool comic book related name for it. “Danny the Street” is a character from Doom Patrol, a sentient genderqueer street that teleports from place to place, picking up people along the way. The Dannyzens that live on Danny are largely drag queens and trans people and gender non-conformists but also misfit metahumans or anyone that feels like they belong there more than anywhere else. Their enemy is the Bureau of Normalcy, a government agency that seeks to stamp out and eradicate anything that doesn’t conform to white christian cisgender neurotypical standards.
Only problem is that I’ve never made a community or moderated before. And I can’t promise I’ll be around to punch nazis 100% of the time, easpecially if I find a job. So I’ll be both learning as I go along and possibly looking for help if it ever gets busy. It’s a niche of a niche though, so it’ll probably be quiet. I would love a space like this personally, if there are any others like me.
The nerds of the 70s/80s were engineers who had kids and a family. Don’t judge the whole world by that shitty TV show which represents nothing (except making fun of autism but wrongly played by that shitty actor). It’s like saying every people going to the gym have a Rambo fetish, it’s not true at all.
!metal@lemmy.world, feel free to contribute.
Huh, I gotta say, after spending the last few months on Facebook for gods know what reason, it’s refreshing to see a post about Castle Rat that isn’t just laugh reacts and metallicaheads going “they’re only popular because hot girl”. Nice to see that all two people commenting on that thread behaved themselves lmao.
This is kinda why I think some things could be combined. A combined community at least for alternative and metal and punk would be busier than a seperate community for each. Maybe I’m just expecting too much from Lemmy as usual.
Ok boomer. Glad that you treated your wife well. But comic book and gaming spaces have been infamously hard for women to be allowed to exist in without harassment of some sort for decades. Same with pro wrestling (although oddly enough I think that’s the most progressive online nerd fandom). Same with metal and even punk, which needed a riot grrrl movement.
Nice insult bro, I’m not a boomer though, and not an asshole either.
Enjoy your safe space full of misconceptions, have fun!
Honestly tells me everything I need to know. I heard that a lot from the 4chan-lite anti SJW crowd on Reddit through the years. And is a funny thing to say considering how triggered you are by an “ok boomer” joke.
For as ‘left wing’ as Lemmy comes across, it’s also astonishingly suddenly an ‘enlightened centrist’ space for liberals when it comes to discussing the manosphere or protecting vulnerable people from bigots.
You clung onto the “safe space” thing in your first comment too, which is why I didn’t really take the rest of this conversation too seriously. You’re literally who I’m talking about here.
I’m not triggered by anything. I was only pointing a ridiculous insult. I mentioned the safe space because you haven’t explained what is it supposed to be. And if you want a small history lesson, I advise you to learn what “the left” was in the past (hint: it was full communism, and a lot of hate for immigrants).
I still don’t understand what you want, but I don’t think it’s important now.
Ok Silent Generation. Ready to round up the commies for president Truman then?
I’ll give you a history lesson. The terms “left wing” and “right wing” come from the aftermath of the French Revolution, where pro democracy and pro worker politicians sat on the left hand side of parliament, and pro monarchy fascist bootlickers sat on the right.
Anything else is just flavour.