Ubuntu Server LTS on my first-ever server. I’mma green rook at this. I’m amazed at how quickly and easily Casa was to get up and running on an old laptop.
I still got a long ways to go before I can try Debian for a server.
While I agree about the annoying Ubuntu parts, Ubuntu Server LTS does seem to ditch those annoying parts also. Besides, I’m running CasaOS over the top. So I haven’t needed to deal with Ubuntu directly after setup. And hopefully, it stays that way until that old laptop dies.
There were still plenty of annoying parts left when I ditched Ubuntu Server as my default server OS for plain Debian. In fact, increasing annoyances was one of the reason I made the switch. This was around 2018 or so, during the 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS switch, and I haven’t looked back. I’m quite happy with Debian 13 that’s currently powering my VMs.
Fair game not wanting to change a running setup of course, but do yourself a favor and look into Debian the next time you’re doing a new install of something.
Oh, I’ve run Debian a number of times over the years. I have 2 issues with it, I want newer software and I’m just not into going to the work needed to get the things I want running and still being easy to maintain. I’ve also spent years running Ubuntu off and on also.
Ubuntu Server with CasaOS was fast and easy to setup. Maybe 15 minutes to get he basic file server I want. And honestly, the first set of setup instructions for my repurposed laptop server that actually made sense as I read through them was for Ubuntu. So, Ubuntu it is - at least for now. Perhaps I might switch to Fedora at some point.
I want newer software and I’m just not into going to the work needed to get the things I want running and still being easy to maintain
I don’t really get the “newer software” argument … they just leapfrog each other every year or so, if you stick to LTS versions. For example, when Trixie came out it was more up-to-date than Noble Numbat (24.04 LTS), and then Resolute Racoon (26.04 LTS) leapfrogged Trixie again, and next year Forky will leapfrog Resolute Racoon.
Also, with Debian, if the stable release is getting a bit stale, you always have the option to start off with Debian Testing, and get something that’s near bleeding edge up-to-date, and then follow testing until the next stable release and then stay on stable.
Ubuntu Server with CasaOS was fast and easy to setup. Maybe 15 minutes to get he basic file server I want
Never used CasaOS, but how would the setup process be any different on Debian? From an admin perspective, they’re nearly identical …
I had a quick glance at the CasaOS getting started page, and not only does Debian have official support but it’s recommended over Ubuntu, and the installation instructions appear to be exactly the same.
To me it just sounds like you’re a little bit stuck in your ways.
I’ve used Debian and I’m just not a fan. It’s doubtful that will ever change.
To me it sounds like you just want to be right about what’s “better”. I never said I would run Ubuntu server forever. It’s just where I started. It works and does all I need it to do right now. If I decide I need something different, I will find something different at that time. Until then, Ubuntu is working just fine.
Both.
Debian for anything that has to run unattended for a long time without requiring much care. Arch for the desktop.
Ubuntu Server LTS on my first-ever server. I’mma green rook at this. I’m amazed at how quickly and easily Casa was to get up and running on an old laptop.
I still got a long ways to go before I can try Debian for a server.
Debian is just Ubuntu without all the annoying parts.
While I agree about the annoying Ubuntu parts, Ubuntu Server LTS does seem to ditch those annoying parts also. Besides, I’m running CasaOS over the top. So I haven’t needed to deal with Ubuntu directly after setup. And hopefully, it stays that way until that old laptop dies.
There were still plenty of annoying parts left when I ditched Ubuntu Server as my default server OS for plain Debian. In fact, increasing annoyances was one of the reason I made the switch. This was around 2018 or so, during the 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS switch, and I haven’t looked back. I’m quite happy with Debian 13 that’s currently powering my VMs.
Fair game not wanting to change a running setup of course, but do yourself a favor and look into Debian the next time you’re doing a new install of something.
Oh, I’ve run Debian a number of times over the years. I have 2 issues with it, I want newer software and I’m just not into going to the work needed to get the things I want running and still being easy to maintain. I’ve also spent years running Ubuntu off and on also.
Ubuntu Server with CasaOS was fast and easy to setup. Maybe 15 minutes to get he basic file server I want. And honestly, the first set of setup instructions for my repurposed laptop server that actually made sense as I read through them was for Ubuntu. So, Ubuntu it is - at least for now. Perhaps I might switch to Fedora at some point.
I don’t really get the “newer software” argument … they just leapfrog each other every year or so, if you stick to LTS versions. For example, when Trixie came out it was more up-to-date than Noble Numbat (24.04 LTS), and then Resolute Racoon (26.04 LTS) leapfrogged Trixie again, and next year Forky will leapfrog Resolute Racoon.
Also, with Debian, if the stable release is getting a bit stale, you always have the option to start off with Debian Testing, and get something that’s near bleeding edge up-to-date, and then follow testing until the next stable release and then stay on stable.
Never used CasaOS, but how would the setup process be any different on Debian? From an admin perspective, they’re nearly identical …
I had a quick glance at the CasaOS getting started page, and not only does Debian have official support but it’s recommended over Ubuntu, and the installation instructions appear to be exactly the same.
To me it just sounds like you’re a little bit stuck in your ways.
I’ve used Debian and I’m just not a fan. It’s doubtful that will ever change.
To me it sounds like you just want to be right about what’s “better”. I never said I would run Ubuntu server forever. It’s just where I started. It works and does all I need it to do right now. If I decide I need something different, I will find something different at that time. Until then, Ubuntu is working just fine.