I hope this post fits the content and format of this community, if not I’m sorry.
I’m just incredibly shocked by the fact that an admin of the instance lemmy.dbzer0.com is openly supporting Hamas.
Here’s a link to the comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61235665/23634712
Hasbara is Israeli propaganda.
No one claims that no one was killed, only that Israel’s account of events is deeply inaccurate. Arguing against the claim that no one was killed is, in the most charitable case, misconstruing the controversy.
For example, we do know that many of the Israeli deaths were directly attributable to fire from Israeli gunships.
Continuing as you do, either you are poorly informed, or deliberately dishonest.
I said they murdered and raped, you said that was “debunked”
Were you lying then, or are you lying now?
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Your “gotcha” questioning isn’t the own you think.
You blundered, by uncritically parroting Israeli propaganda used to justify Israel’s atrocities.
Instead you should learn about the serious problems with the Israeli narrative. and then reevaluate your own perspective. Until then, your discussing the subject is not productive.
To people not dwelling in a rabbit hole of Zionist propaganda, my characterization is not misleading.
If someone says a Tale of Two Cities is fiction, are they lying because Old Bailey and the Bastille are real?
Just looking to know which time you were lying. Simple question.
I didn’t parrot anything. Sorry you think “rape and murder is bad” requires some kind of propaganda to believe.
Says a lot about how you get your talking points though.
There’s your problem. You’re trying to discuss complex political issues with massively absurd oversimplifications.
I answered your question. If you don’t accept the answer, that’s on you.
Something is either debunked, or it isn’t. That’s simply not a complex issue.
Says a lot that you won’t give a straight answer though. Or use concise language about anything.
Because if you did, you’d have to decide whether to go with:
I wonder which it is.
The actual events, and ascertaining them reliably, obviously are very complicated.
The simplest way to address your question is still relatively simple, but less simple than you pretend.
The question you insist is simple conflates two different things. One is the fact of fatalities occurring during conflict, and the other is the Israeli narrative as parroted uncritically.
One is accepted fact, which no one contests, and one is debunked propaganda.
You should be adequately thoughtful and sincere to acknowledge the distinction.
You should stop wondering, and start acknowledging that you have constructed a rather absurd false dichotomy.
It says a lot about you that I addressed your question directly and appropriately, several times now in succession, yet you still act too dense to understand.
Tell me what words I used that misaligns with accepted fact then. Why can’t you do it? Prove you can be direct.
What is it you want to prove for yourself?
You seem to be searching for some straightforward and unambiguous proof that you are right, whereas I consider it completely right that you were called out for acting as a mouthpiece of Israel and Zionism.
It would be best for you to let go of your need for the world to be explained in terms that are black and while.
At least one thing really is simple, though. If you want not to be called a mouthpiece of Israel, then you should stop acting as one.
Okay, was there rape, yes or no?
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