I used sub-title because Americans tend to treat this like the end of the world while ignoring that it was an act of malicious (and unnecessary) compliance.
Yeah it’s weird AF how some Americans blame european governments and not their corpos who have collectively chosen to do popups instead of finding alternative ethical business models.
No. For example this is the website we need to use for tax reasons: https://www.minfin.fgov.be/ full screen cookie window, doesn’t work if you have an ad blocker.
In order to authenticate yourself on the previous website they made this: https://mygov.be/. Also full screen cookie window. To then lead you to a download that only works on non-rooted android or apple phones. This is a NextGenerationEU project. This is the EU’s vision for it’s own digital future. It sucks embarrassingly hard.
From what I can find, they use Google Analytics to track website visits and it’s why they have cookie popups, but beyond vague statements I can’t find anything about why they want this data in the privacy policy.
My best bet would be that they can track how many (unique) people use the site and how often they use it and for what so they can ask for appropriate financing from the federal government come budget season, that’s also why the NHS uses it.
The website looks very nice so I’m fairly certain it’s made by a private third party, at least in the UK everything that can be privatised/outsourced, is, even private companies often hire some other company to make their website, so I have no proof.
Neither of us is a winner here. This whole legislation sucks for everyone involved.
can track how many (unique) people use the site
We have to authenticate with a government ID in order to use those applications. So they have all the information to count unique users even without google tracking.
It’s more about how the people use the site, and which page and when and how, which devices, and how often etc. You would also want to track anyone before they sign in, and it’s also a way to identify issues/bugs and accessibility and identify outages/incidents and security issues without those being directly reported.
By “you win” I meant to say I’ve no idea why your local government would issue popups, which I guess means this isn’t just limited to American megacorps though, hence I retract that specific argument because of your counter example.
This whole legislation sucks for everyone involved.
No, it doesn’t, I’m still massively in support of it, what?
I absolutely stand by GDPR, even if you found one example of public entities that for some reason also use cookie popups instead of properly complying, even if they all did that, I would not for a moment wish it any other way, no public or private body of any kind has any right to any of my information for any reason without my explicit informed properly scoped consent for each given interaction.
I think the legislation is great and I would support a massive expansion of it and the US equivalent in CCPA.
For as long as data has any value, we must regulate it lest predatory orgs will abuse it and take the working class for all they’re worth straight to a surveillance state or a corporotocratic dystopia.
no public or private body of any kind has any right to any of my information for any reason without my explicit informed properly scoped consent for each given interaction.
predatory orgs
No public or private entity should access my information without my explicit, informed, and properly scoped consent for each interaction. Except that they do and that this legislation does not address this issue.
An effective solution will be technical, ensuring that only minimal information is transferred.
This legislation doesn’t work because most of the world can just ignore EU law. And the government institutes, from local to federal to EU, the largest invaders of my privacy, exclude themselves from the regulation.
This fosters a false sense of security, leading to a decline in digital skepticism and privacy hygiene. It even mandates shitty technical implementations, in such a way that improvements are illegal.
This naive, shitty legislation is a net negative for digital privacy.
I used sub-title because Americans tend to treat this like the end of the world while ignoring that it was an act of malicious (and unnecessary) compliance.
Yeah it’s weird AF how some Americans blame european governments and not their corpos who have collectively chosen to do popups instead of finding alternative ethical business models.
Even my own government (Belgium) does those popups. This is not solely a “bad american” thing.
Is the website outsourced to a private company?
No. For example this is the website we need to use for tax reasons: https://www.minfin.fgov.be/ full screen cookie window, doesn’t work if you have an ad blocker.
In order to authenticate yourself on the previous website they made this: https://mygov.be/. Also full screen cookie window. To then lead you to a download that only works on non-rooted android or apple phones. This is a NextGenerationEU project. This is the EU’s vision for it’s own digital future. It sucks embarrassingly hard.
Well honestly then I don’t know, you win
From what I can find, they use Google Analytics to track website visits and it’s why they have cookie popups, but beyond vague statements I can’t find anything about why they want this data in the privacy policy.
My best bet would be that they can track how many (unique) people use the site and how often they use it and for what so they can ask for appropriate financing from the federal government come budget season, that’s also why the NHS uses it.
The website looks very nice so I’m fairly certain it’s made by a private third party, at least in the UK everything that can be privatised/outsourced, is, even private companies often hire some other company to make their website, so I have no proof.
Neither of us is a winner here. This whole legislation sucks for everyone involved.
We have to authenticate with a government ID in order to use those applications. So they have all the information to count unique users even without google tracking.
It’s more about how the people use the site, and which page and when and how, which devices, and how often etc. You would also want to track anyone before they sign in, and it’s also a way to identify issues/bugs and accessibility and identify outages/incidents and security issues without those being directly reported.
By “you win” I meant to say I’ve no idea why your local government would issue popups, which I guess means this isn’t just limited to American megacorps though, hence I retract that specific argument because of your counter example.
No, it doesn’t, I’m still massively in support of it, what?
I absolutely stand by GDPR, even if you found one example of public entities that for some reason also use cookie popups instead of properly complying, even if they all did that, I would not for a moment wish it any other way, no public or private body of any kind has any right to any of my information for any reason without my explicit informed properly scoped consent for each given interaction.
I think the legislation is great and I would support a massive expansion of it and the US equivalent in CCPA.
For as long as data has any value, we must regulate it lest predatory orgs will abuse it and take the working class for all they’re worth straight to a surveillance state or a corporotocratic dystopia.
No public or private entity should access my information without my explicit, informed, and properly scoped consent for each interaction. Except that they do and that this legislation does not address this issue.
An effective solution will be technical, ensuring that only minimal information is transferred.
This legislation doesn’t work because most of the world can just ignore EU law. And the government institutes, from local to federal to EU, the largest invaders of my privacy, exclude themselves from the regulation.
This fosters a false sense of security, leading to a decline in digital skepticism and privacy hygiene. It even mandates shitty technical implementations, in such a way that improvements are illegal.
This naive, shitty legislation is a net negative for digital privacy.