Libs thinking we’re on their side, until the point we reject electoralism and US imperialist propaganda. Then label as as “tankies”.

Campists thinking we’re on their side until the point we reject “AES” and “left unity”. Then label as a “liberals”.

Anarchists are clearly the rare species of “liberal tankie” 😆

  • Godric@lemmy.world
    139·
    6 days ago

    Buddy it’s lemmy, there are no conservatives here. Punching left when the only place to punch is left hardy makes someone a “crypto-fascist” lmao

    • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlEnglish
      141·
      6 days ago

      Yeah but its like nearly all they do a core part of their identity. It’s not that they punch left its how often they do it, how they do it, and the rhetoric they have shown themselves to be comfortable with.

      • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
        91·
        5 days ago

        The whole Nazis Lives Matter thread a while back with the Nuremberg Trial critics I figured would’ve been enough for people.

          • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
            11·
            5 days ago

            Threads back during the German elections.

            One spillover into this community:

            https://lemmy.world/post/25608764

            A number of users there have since changed accounts and/or instances, in some cases multiple times.

            Point being: all the dedicated tankie bashing is put into stark context when the opportunity to bash Nazis is met with a kind of resistance they’d permaban a tankie over.

            • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              10·
              5 days ago

              Holy shit do I hate German liberals. Tell me none of your family had to die because the oppressor rapist, pillagers, murderers and genociders dressed in uniform thought of them as dirt to be “cleansed” for their own “Lebensraum”; tell me without telling me.

              Half of Eastern Europe wasn’t wiped out, 6 million Jews were not gassed and 27 million Soviet citizens (only 9 million of which were from the Red Army) didn’t die, just so you can whine about how your great grandparents “didn’t have a choice” and how fascists deserve(d) “human rights”; no, the only good fascist is a dead one.

              Fascist deserve only one right: the choice between the mineshaft and the bullet.

              And what infuriates me most: There are few things the liberals will defend as ferociously as the political/“human” rights of the fascists. I’m not even gonna start about how liberals and thus capitalism are the reason fascism gets to exist in the first place…

              A good video of Parenti on this topic (timestamped, but you are welcome to watch the whole 4 minutes, very good video)

              I’m gonna leave you with two quotes by Brecht:

              Those who are against Fascism without being against capitalism, who lament over the barbarism that comes out of barbarism, are like people who wish to eat their veal without slaughtering the calf.

              Hatred of oppression still distorts the features, Anger at injustice still makes voices raised and ugly. Oh we, who wished to lay for the foundations for peace and friendliness, Could never be friendly ourselves.

              • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
                3·
                4 days ago

                Nothing makes me despise someone’s piss poor views on ethics more than trying to defend the humanity of someone who chooses to betray humanity.

                Yes, they’re still humans, but people deserve to get what they choose, too. What does someone deserve when they choose to betray humanity?