"Parents of some of them were killed by occupation authorities, others were simply issued Russian identification documents to legitimize their abduction," said Mykola Kuleba, head of the Save Ukraine organization.
There is no such thing as “neutral” in a war, but facts are facts, and lies are lies. If the position people take means people say lies, you disprove the lies.
From all this word-soup I see that you have effectively not a good example of false reporting from the Kyiv Independent, and you cast a wide net to the whole “western media”.
What is an example of neutral media in your opinion that you consider factual and trustworthy?
What a sad, almost patethic, way to drop the towel and abandon the conversation.
I can’t say I am entirely surprised, when someone calls a newspaper a rag, accuses it of false reporting on two topics and then backpedals on “no, not that specifically, the whole western media is not neutral” (great discovery, newspapers are not neutral).
I gave facts and details explaining that rag was infested with NATO and other elements of the US terrorist regime.
Not to my surprise that comment gets removed by the .world censors.
And you have the nerve to call that a word salad.
Again, you are pathetic and not wasting my time on western imperialist and genocider enabling regime mouthpieces.
I’ll block you since you can’t STFU
Ah, so now we’re on to classic whataboutism fallacy. Pointing out that Russian media gets dismissed (often for good reason) doesn’t make it logically valid to dismiss any report just because of its origin.
If you think The Kyiv Independent is questionable, that’s fine! Interrogate the claims. Ask:
What are the sources?
Are they independent?
Can they be verified elsewhere?
The same rules apply to Russian media and every other claim.
But using other fallacies doesn’t justify your response. Saying “Well, people dismiss Russian media too” isn’t a defense. It’s just avoiding the argument again.
Dismissing Russian media reports occurs way more commonly but no one says anything then.
Russian media rarely if ever cites their sources, and when they do they are dubious at best
and mostly because putin control what russian media puts out as well.
These ones certainly aren’t.
From the people who gave us the Ghost of Kiev and the Snake Island fantasy
Did they report on those at all?
I searched their websites and I got 0 hits on the Ghost of Kyiv, and 1 hit on Snake Island (this).
Removed by mod
There is no such thing as “neutral” in a war, but facts are facts, and lies are lies. If the position people take means people say lies, you disprove the lies.
From all this word-soup I see that you have effectively not a good example of false reporting from the Kyiv Independent, and you cast a wide net to the whole “western media”.
What is an example of neutral media in your opinion that you consider factual and trustworthy?
I guess nothing since they ran away
thanks chat GPT
not intersted inyour wordsoup, bye
What a sad, almost patethic, way to drop the towel and abandon the conversation.
I can’t say I am entirely surprised, when someone calls a newspaper a rag, accuses it of false reporting on two topics and then backpedals on “no, not that specifically, the whole western media is not neutral” (great discovery, newspapers are not neutral).
Have a good one!
I gave facts and details explaining that rag was infested with NATO and other elements of the US terrorist regime.
Not to my surprise that comment gets removed by the .world censors.
And you have the nerve to call that a word salad.
Again, you are pathetic and not wasting my time on western imperialist and genocider enabling regime mouthpieces.
I’ll block you since you can’t STFU
“Removed by mod”
No reason given since it’s pure censorship of facts they don’t like.
pathetic cowards.
Worse than Reddit.
Perhaps something to do with you being Russian troll?
Ah, so now we’re on to classic whataboutism fallacy. Pointing out that Russian media gets dismissed (often for good reason) doesn’t make it logically valid to dismiss any report just because of its origin.
If you think The Kyiv Independent is questionable, that’s fine! Interrogate the claims. Ask:
What are the sources?
Are they independent?
Can they be verified elsewhere?
The same rules apply to Russian media and every other claim.
But using other fallacies doesn’t justify your response. Saying “Well, people dismiss Russian media too” isn’t a defense. It’s just avoiding the argument again.
What-aboutism. I love how generic and useless you’re being.
Russian sources arnt legitimate, and are filled with propaganda, so its generally ignored. it would be deleted on reddit as it would here as well.
Your point is?