• LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    You’d have to buy your own land, of course.

    But you could buy a tiny plot in the middle of nowhere, not hook up any utilities or have roads, and just live off your land if you wanted.

    There are small parcels in the middle of noplace that nobody wants because there are no roads, utilities, or other services.

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      1 day ago

      Small parcels? Australia and many other places are pretty much empty. And yes, nobody wants to be there for a reason.

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        24 hours ago

        Yeah, but ‘nobody wants to be there for a reason’ is my whole point.

        It will absolutely suck for you. That’s why civilisation is better, and also why we have to make some concessions to be in a society.

        There’s no utopia where everything is perfect. There never was.

        If you want societal amenities, you have to pay for them in some small way, and if you don’t, your life will be very hard. Those have always been the choices.

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          24 hours ago

          I know. I just wanted to point out that the are huge swaths of land that are empty, not buy tiny patches.

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      19 hours ago

      But you could buy a tiny plot in the middle of nowhere, not hook up any utilities or have roads, and just live off your land if you wanted.

      Not legally mate.

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        19 hours ago

        You literally can do that.

        Why do people seem to think this is impossible?

        What’s changed? Some parts of that life are sometimes illegal, but most people haven’t been against it like this.

        What’s different?

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          18 hours ago

          For one there’s zoning laws, most property do not allow any construction, so you’re fucked for shelter. Likewise if you’re on agriculutrally zoned land as most of those large rural parcel are you are legally required to use it for commercial farming. You can’t just go and fell trees or hunt animals, so you’ll be fucked for food. Most councils do not allow new constructions that don’t meet rigid standards such as requirements for plumbing, so no more out-houses. You’re often not allowed to stay on many properties for extended periods of time (i.e. more than a few weeks or month). And if the council ever finds or hears of you living in such a place, they’ll send the police for you

          Linking to a few mansions in the bush isn’t the same thing as being able to just go fuck off to woop-woop for the rest of your days.

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            18 hours ago

            Well, yeah. Regulations are a major part of society, and a major reason we tend to come together. Yet another reason libertarianism is misguided.

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              18 hours ago

              Regulations can be good, they can also be bad.

              Such as regulations demanding housing meets a certain area size or standard plumping system means we are not allowed to live in affordable tiny homes with composting toilets.