• elbiter@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Americans are amazing. Their healthcare system is literally killing them and ruining their families, and they keep talking about how bad “socialism” is…

    The amount of bullshit this people buy is incredible.

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      5 hours ago

      I didn’t build this fucking hellscape. I was born into it and I’m doing my best. Unless all the boomers and billionaires die off, we are trapped like this.

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      10 hours ago

      10 years ago, we almost had medicare for all as a public healthcare option. We were soooo close. But congress fucked it up necause they were lobbied by ins companies who knew everyone with a brain would flock to the public option.

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      12 hours ago

      TBF a shitload of us know how socialized health care works. We want it.

      There’s a massive, massive industry that is working very hard to make sure that it doesn’t happen.

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        7 hours ago

        I work in healthcare. I feel like more and more people are wanting some sort of universal healthcare in the last few years, even if they are conservative, even if they’ll vote against it, and even if the term “universal healthcare” will have them up in arms. But the concept itself? They’re all for it, they complain that healthcare is too expensive and insurance companies aren’t covering things and the system needs to change. They’re getting there. It’s taking them getting fucked over for it to happen and most of us may be dead of completely preventable causes first, but they just might get there.

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          4 hours ago

          I work the other side of this. We do everything we are legally permitted to do to get this shit paid but there are limits. A big one is while we can tell a provider what’s wrong with a claim and why it denied, we can’t tell them how to bill. It’s illegal. We have to be very careful how we tell them to correct a claim.

          This process is inefficient and we hate it. But it’s so much worse when they hire overseas call centers to process their billing for them. I have no doubt there are many intelligent Indian people who can do this but a big local hospital in my area goes out of their way to avoid hiring them. So they fuck up a claim. We tell them, as much as we are legally permitted to, how to fix it. They either do not understand the language we are speaking (not a racist remark, a literal statement. Some of them can speak English but cannot understand it spoken to them.) or refused to follow directions and just keep telling us to do it again.

          I get it. I work for the devil. But the overseas reps (and now AI bots) make this so much worse. Nobody is saving any money by doing it this way.

          Please please please legislate us into obsolescence people. If I hear one more old lady tell me she can’t afford insulin anymore I’m buying a noose.

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      12 hours ago

      Their systems are killing them, their cops are killing them, their guns are killing them, their politicians are on record saying they hate them, their religious leaders are clearly stealing from them while they abuse their children, they hate traffic but refuse to do anything about including keeping cars but using roundabouts, and the propaganda that they claim is corrupting their minds is so pathetic that even a toddler should be able to see past it like it’s made of crystal-clear glass.

      The reason I hate the US is because they have zero excuses and still fuck things up in so many obvious ways while anyone with more than a few braincells screams at them to please just stop chugging rat poison and all they can say is “but it’s different here, we aren’t Europe” as if that’s any kind of excuse.

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        9 hours ago

        You are consuming far too much of the exact same mainstream media narrative that got us into this mess. All you’re really telling me is that you are from a country Putin is not interested in, or your own friends and neighbors would be going batshit crazy too.

        And before you excuse yourself thinking you’d never personally do that, that you are just way too smart for propaganda to ever be swayed by it, given your own propensity for unambiguously consuming media narratives and attaching your personal emotions to whatever caricatures of reality you’ve been shown, like you’ve just demonstrated in your comment, you’d probably be first in line to fall for the right-wing foreign-funded propaganda we’ve been flooded with for decades now.

        EDITED a comma

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        12 hours ago

        O and I’m sure you’re country is a bastion of moral superiority. Considering how well your English is I suppose you’re from western Europe? I’m sure I can dig up a whole bunch of shit on your country of origin.

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          Canada, and I will readily admit to us also being quite fucked up and getting worse. I’m disappointed in our behaviour, but at least we don’t go around acting like we’re hot shit. It’s not the US’s problems that piss me off, it’s their dogshit attitude about how great they are while sucking at almost everything they can’t just throw money at and then use to make even more money.

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            I wish you would have said that you were from France or Sweden or something it would have been a lot harder for me to find crap about your country because France and Sweden are better countries than America.

            But you’re from Canada…

            Throw money at it that’s absolutely beautiful Canada has some of the most predatory car loans probably in the world…

            I grew up in Detroit so I’ve been to Canada a lot. You having anything bad to say about America is the most clinical definition of the pot calling the kettle black I have ever seen.

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      12 hours ago

      Christ on a stick. Universal healthcare has nothing to do with socialism. Government programs that serve the public are part of the government’s core purpose in the first place.

      It is remarkable how many people on this platform champion “socialism” when what they actually mean is social democracy. The difference is substantial.

      Socialism does not work. It has never worked. No nation has prospered under socialism, and none will as long as scarcity remains.

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        1 hour ago

        Why should only healthcare work if run by government? Government could run all industries.

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          2 hours ago

          I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not… If you’re not that’s the most brain dead thing I’ve ever heard in a long time.

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            Why can’t the government serve the public and provide all needed goods and not just healthcare? Where is the limit that prevents socialism?