- cross-posted to:
- politicalmemes@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politicalmemes@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/politicalmemes/p/392491/do-you-agree
Do you agree?
cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/politicalmemes/p/392491/do-you-agree
Do you agree?
USSR was still a state, so of course it didn’t work. You need to eliminate power structures
You can’t eliminate power structures. You can eliminate existing power structures, but all you’ve accomplished is removing checks on new upstart power structures: warlords, mafiosos, charismatic demagogues.
All power ultimately rests upon the threat of violence. Eliminate the state’s monopoly on “legitimate” violence, and you find yourself under the dominion of those who have the savvy to concentrate forces of illegitimate violence.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say we can never reach sustainable anarcho-communism, but it’s not something we’ll see in our lifetimes. Premature attempts are going to result in “anarcho”-capitalistic neofeudalism.
Power structures can absolutely be eliminated. By taking away the ability for anyone to carry out the threat of violence, and removing harmful institutions like the state and capitalism
How exactly do you take away the ability for anyone to carry out violence? How do you take away my ability to punch you? To beat you with a steel pipe? To get my friends together to beat you to a pulp?
Literally, I’m curious. How do you take those abilities away?
You could start by trying to resolve any conflict that would lead to that in the first place. But if you mean do it just because you feel like it then the community could require you to make reparations or something like that. If that still didn’t work you could be kicked out of the community
Right, but that’s a power structure. The community has the power to require reparations or kick you out.
Not necessarily as a community would have power split equally among all.
Until the first person realizes that if they can sway 51% of the community, they can oppress the other 49%. Technically everyone has an equal vote, but one person definitely wields more power. It’s just mob rule, whoever is most persuasive is in charge.
Interestingly enough what you just described is a democracy, the socalled system that gives people power. Anarchist societies would be by consensus